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Related: About this forumJack Phillips, Masterpiece Cakeshop Owner, Says He'd Rather Go To Jail Than Make Gay Wedding Cake
The Colorado baker who was ordered to serve gay couples by a state judge says he'd rather go to jail than prepare a same-sex wedding cake.
"I do what I do because I love doing what I do and I believe it's what God's designed for me to do," Jack Phillips, owner of Masterpiece Cakeshop, told Fox News' Elisabeth Hasselbeck via Raw Story. "I don't plan on giving up my religious beliefs ... I don't feel that I should participate in their wedding, and when I do a cake, I feel like I'm participating in the ceremony or the event or the celebration that the cake is for."
He then added, "My priorities would be towards my faith rather than towards my safety or security."
Phillips' latest remarks echo statements he's made in previous interviews. Last year, he told local CBS affilate KCNC-TV that he has no problem with lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender (LGBT) customers or staff members -- but nonetheless does not support gay marriage.
"If it came to that point, we would close down the bakery before we would compromise our beliefs, so that may be what it comes to," Phillips said. "We'll see."
more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/10/jack-phillips-gay-wedding-cake_n_4420252.html?ref=topbar
elleng
(131,143 posts)and close down the bakery.
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)JimboBillyBubbaBob
(1,389 posts)He may meet someone in there and need a cake of his own!
nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)Lint Head
(15,064 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)the martyrDUMB of the masterpiece Cakeshop guy, but you don't go to jail for violating civil law ... you just are subject to fines and damages verdicts.
dballance
(5,756 posts)Segregation, whites-only establishments were justified in the same manner. It wasn't right then and it's not right now. He could use the same argument to refuse service to atheists, Muslims, or any non-Christian.
nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)where you don't have to serve the public, genius!
dballance
(5,756 posts)This article at TPM explains the background and the judge's ruling. In my opinion the judge got it all correct. Especially since there is a law against discrimination based on sexual orientation in CO.
http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2013/12/06/3035121/colorado-bakery-broke-law/
PDF of the entire ruling: http://aclu-co.org/sites/default/files/Signed%20Initial%20Decision%20Cake%20Case%20No%20%20CR%202013-0008.pdf
On edit. If you look at the complaint the bakery is full corporation, not just the owners doing business as a sole proprietorship. This makes the bakeshop a completely separate entity from the owners - an artificial entity. One which cannot possibly be seen to be able to exercise religion and, therefore, have religious freedoms. This is the same issue with the Hobby Lobby that's coming before the SCOTUS.
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)over this, although he seems to be fantasizing over that prospect.
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)Has he ever made cakes for those who are on their second, third, or more marriages? How conflicted was his religious values for those?
Has he ever made cakes for men who have had sex with virgins, yet did not marry them, or recompense the virgins father for her value?
If he can POSITIVELY show that he has equally applied his religious belief across the board, I do actually kind of support his position. I SERIOUSLY doubt that he has ever even questioned the previous divorce status, or the virginity status of his other customers, and therefore this isn't his religious belief at play, it's plain and simple bigotry.