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Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 12:24 AM Dec 2013

Was Norman Rockwell gay? Family aghast at biography

Norman Rockwell, icon of homespun, patriotic American illustration, was not attracted to men, irate relatives are saying.

On Sunday, a biography by Deborah Solomon, was reviewed in the Post-Dispatch. This is what reviewer Harry Levins said about the question of sex in "American Mirror":

"Many people close to Rockwell wondered whether he was a homosexual. Solomon found nothing to suggest that Rockwell had ever had sex with another man. But she writes, 'He demonstrated an intense need for emotional and physical closeness with men. From the viewpoint of twenty-first-century gender studies, a man who yearns for the company of men is considered homosexual, whether or not he has sex with other men.'”

Even though the book's biggest surprise may really be how admiring Solomon is of Rockwell's work, the family is taking issue with her interpretation of the artist's sexuality.

http://www.stltoday.com/entertainment/books-and-literature/book-blog/was-norman-rockwell-gay-family-aghast-at-biography/article_2e608e9d-4224-5a20-b076-49bad1177a5d.html

Rockwell Biography Angers His Family
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/03/arts/design/rockwell-biography-angers-his-family.html

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Was Norman Rockwell gay? Family aghast at biography (Original Post) Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 OP
So by this logic... WillParkinson Dec 2013 #1
worse yet camping and cards!!! WTF!! Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #2
Maybe it was Mah Jong? Smarmie Doofus Dec 2013 #6
This is offensive on so many levels. Behind the Aegis Dec 2013 #3
and strange...nt Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #4
I agree that the logic she employs is fucked-up. closeupready Dec 2013 #7
It is nice of you to refer to it as 'logic.' Behind the Aegis Dec 2013 #8
Good thing Rockwell didn't yearn for the company of his dog or Santorum would be all over this. last1standing Dec 2013 #5
I assume you mean Rick Santorum Fearless Dec 2013 #9
My take... Fearless Dec 2013 #10
Yup, all those guys drinking beer and gathered around watching NFL... joeybee12 Dec 2013 #11

WillParkinson

(16,862 posts)
1. So by this logic...
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 12:26 AM
Dec 2013

People who have a diverse group of male and female friends must be bisexual and those who only want female friends are obviously straight?

:Shakes head:

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
2. worse yet camping and cards!!! WTF!!
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 12:34 AM
Dec 2013

From the NYT:

She described a camping trip in Quebec that Rockwell took with his male assistant, during which the men swam and played cards together late into the night, and Rockwell noted in his diaries that his assistant looked “most fetching in his long flannels.”


Surprised the publishers ok'ed it and the times gave it publicity. Strange really.
 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
7. I agree that the logic she employs is fucked-up.
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 07:55 PM
Dec 2013

If Rockwell were gay, however, that'd be fine with me. As I'm sure it would be for just about anyone in our group.

By the way, is this part of the story true:

"From the viewpoint of twenty-first-century gender studies, a man who yearns for the company of men is considered homosexual, whether or not he has sex with other men."

Where does she get THAT???

Behind the Aegis

(53,959 posts)
8. It is nice of you to refer to it as 'logic.'
Sat Dec 28, 2013, 05:51 AM
Dec 2013

The statement you pulled out is also the one that made me go ! Does that absurd viewpoint apply to women? If so, then there are a shit-load of gays and lesbians out there who don't have a clue.

last1standing

(11,709 posts)
5. Good thing Rockwell didn't yearn for the company of his dog or Santorum would be all over this.
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 02:28 AM
Dec 2013

It sounds to me like Solomon is trying to find a way to sell a few extra books. She makes a completely unsubstantiated comment and then backs it off with "well he wanted to be around other men."

She's using homophobic shock value to make money.

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
9. I assume you mean Rick Santorum
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 04:28 AM
Dec 2013

Otherwise this is possibly the most disgusting post I've ever read on DU!

Either way...

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
10. My take...
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 04:45 AM
Dec 2013

If he was gay: Ok, that's pretty neat. Any time a piece of Americana, beloved by conservatives (and non-conservatives alike) turns up gay, I laugh my ass off.

If he wasn't gay: So what.

Either way: There's no reason for anyone to be angry about the suggestion that he might be.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
11. Yup, all those guys drinking beer and gathered around watching NFL...
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 07:37 PM
Dec 2013

Are all gay...and the women who don't like football are lesbians, and the ones who do are straight, because they're hanging around with men, and don't get me started about us pet lovers! Don't want to go there!

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