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cinnabonbon

(860 posts) Wed Feb 5, 2014, 04:58 AM Feb 2014

Allen and homophobia

No, he's not said anything homophobic as far as I know. What I'm talking about is certain DU posts comparing the case (where one of his daughters said he sexually abused her when she was a kid) to homophobia.

Regardless of how you feel about the man, I think that comparison is terribly inappropriate. However, I am having trouble articulating why it bothers me so much. I don't think that a wealthy, straight guy being called "creepy" can be compared to homophobia, but apparently others on this site do.

Any help?

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Allen and homophobia (Original Post) cinnabonbon Feb 2014 OP

i agree with you JI7 Feb 2014 #1

Thanks, I was starting to feel like I was nuts cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #2

This is almost like a debate about causality. TexasTowelie Feb 2014 #3

Glad it wasn't just me, then. nt cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #6

I haven't seen it. Behind the Aegis Feb 2014 #4

You're saving yourself a lot of cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #5

I am still irritated by last week's calling gays "bullies" and "thugs" for confronting homophobia. Behind the Aegis Feb 2014 #7

Those irritated me too cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #8

a quote attributed to Dorothy Parker on FB mitchtv Feb 2014 #9

That is an excellent way to think about it cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #10

JI7

(89,260 posts)

1. i agree with you

Reply to cinnabonbon (Original post)

Wed Feb 5, 2014, 05:03 AM

Feb 2014

not about whether one thinks he is guilty either. the comparison just seems wrong to me.

cinnabonbon

(860 posts)

2. Thanks, I was starting to feel like I was nuts

Reply to JI7 (Reply #1)

Wed Feb 5, 2014, 05:09 AM

Feb 2014

It left a really bad taste in my mouth. I mean, I know straight people often want to compare bad things they go through to homophobia to make it seem legitimate, but.... I don't know. It just seems like they're exploiting the oppression we go through to make a cheap point.

TexasTowelie

(112,345 posts)

3. This is almost like a debate about causality.

Reply to cinnabonbon (Original post)

Wed Feb 5, 2014, 05:15 AM

Feb 2014

It is easy to create conjecture about various triggers when the outcome is already known. The comparison is a gaffe IMO.

cinnabonbon

(860 posts)

6. Glad it wasn't just me, then. nt

Reply to TexasTowelie (Reply #3)

Wed Feb 5, 2014, 05:28 AM

Feb 2014

Behind the Aegis

(53,973 posts)

4. I haven't seen it.

Reply to cinnabonbon (Original post)

Wed Feb 5, 2014, 05:22 AM

Feb 2014

But I also haven't been following the Allen crap.

cinnabonbon

(860 posts)

5. You're saving yourself a lot of

Reply to Behind the Aegis (Reply #4)

Wed Feb 5, 2014, 05:25 AM

Feb 2014

headache and casually awful comments that way. Very smart.

Behind the Aegis

(53,973 posts)

7. I am still irritated by last week's calling gays "bullies" and "thugs" for confronting homophobia.

Reply to cinnabonbon (Reply #5)

Wed Feb 5, 2014, 05:39 AM

Feb 2014

Then there was the whole "heterophobia" bullshit, and watching actual threads about homophobia get passed by.

cinnabonbon

(860 posts)

8. Those irritated me too

Reply to Behind the Aegis (Reply #7)

Wed Feb 5, 2014, 05:47 AM

Feb 2014

It's very clear that they don't understand the nature of homophobia when they say things like that. I wish they would listen instead of saying ignorant things like that.

mitchtv

(17,718 posts)

9. a quote attributed to Dorothy Parker on FB

Reply to cinnabonbon (Original post)

Wed Feb 5, 2014, 02:20 PM

Feb 2014

"heterosexuality is not normal, it's common"...

cinnabonbon

(860 posts)

10. That is an excellent way to think about it

Reply to mitchtv (Reply #9)

Wed Feb 5, 2014, 02:29 PM

Feb 2014

After all, I'm perfectly normal even though I'm not straight. Letting them say "straight" is the only "normal" isn't right.

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