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Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 01:02 PM Apr 2014

Is anyone else here bothered by corporatization of LGBT groups?

I received a phone call a couple of months ago.

HRC fundraiser.

He said (I swear it) that I was the longest-standing supporter on his call list. I can't really believe that but I do go back to probably 1990 or so.

Maybe a little bit before. ( I think I donated when it was still a "Fund". As in "Human Rights Campaign Fund". Someone do the math)

OK. Long time.

He asked me to ante up again. The usual spiel about can we count on you for a monthly donation of 99$ per month. I used to just laugh at the conclusion of this brazen display of chutzpah before re-upping w. my annual re-up fee: 50 dollars per annum, more or less.

This time, though I cut him off . I asked about HRC "partnerships" w. certain corporate entities. He didn't know anything about that. I didn't know much more than that myself, but I did decline to re-up until such time that I could look into the question of with whom my 50 bucks was.... ehhhh.... *partnering*.

Well it's here. Have a look. This is what disturbs me:

http://www.hrc.org/the-hrc-story/corporate-partners

Citibank. Coca Cola. Bank of America. Microsoft. ( Gates!. Ugh.) Goldman-Fucking-Sachs.

And on and on it goes.

OK... let's say these corporate monsters have ok policies on lgbt rights; but they may at the same time be trying to union-bust, privatize public education, promote Tea-Party type takeovers of states like North Carolina and Wisconsin, and collaborate w. people who "disappear" union activists in Colombia and elsewhere around the world.

I do a lot of work currently on issues related unionism, democracy in the workplace and public education. And, less intensively these days , on LGBT matters. Sometimes the lines do cross though, in interesting ways. Why do Gates' Common Core States Standards, for instance, exclude mention of LGBTs? (Every other demographic is easily searched for and found.) How does micromanaging classroom instruction, weakening tenure and creating hostile, authoritarian work environments, enable teachers, for instance to take the risks necessary to teach the science and history re. homosexuality in a situation in which there is a rigid, heteronormative , scripted curriculum...in other words: Common Core.... created by such as Gates and his empire of thousands of foundation-dependent hirelings... that is mandated by the state? ( And by the "state", I mean the state legislators who are up to their eyeballs in corporate cash to begin with.)



Ditto, the relationship between the rest of the corporate cabal that is nominally supporting lgbts thru HRC. Seems to me, *democracy* meshes best with the ethos on which *real* lgbt equality will eventually rest. And what I'm seeing on that HRC site is NOT democracy. ( I'm not sure what it is , exactly, but it ain't democracy.)

Brandeis said famously, "We can have democracy, or we can have wealth concentrated in the hands of a few. But we can't have both. " Seems to me real democracy jibes infinitely more closely w. the foundational philosophy of lgbt equality than does relying on .. or even accepting.....corporate largesse.

For one thing, a democratic and non-corporate HRC would likely be a more energetic and effective advocate on other issues... like income inequality, for example... were it to get out of the business of "partnering" with Goldman Sachs and the like.

I still haven't sent HRC any money; and am leaning toward NOT doing so. (BTW.. if they have all these megabillionaires lined-up, what do they want with my 50 bucks?)

Thoughts?

Am I short sighted? Crazy? Am I conflating matters that ought to remain distinct? Should I just shut up and send them the money?

Thoughts?

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closeupready

(29,503 posts)
2. This x 1000. They raise funds in order to perpetuate their 'non-profit' jobs, lol.
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 01:34 PM
Apr 2014

And yes, to throw extravagant champagne-and-lobster 'fundraisers' for themselves and their celebrity donors.

But if you believe in throwing good money at bad, go for it.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
9. Typical of career nonprofit characters, IMO, and I say that from first-hand
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 10:28 AM
Apr 2014

experience, in terms of not having any time to even set up a form rejection email, let alone do actual PR/education about their mission and their goals, and how much progress they've made.

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
10. So... what does one do when one needs actually to connect w., say, lgbt advocacy entities?
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 10:51 AM
Apr 2014

It seems as though there is no longer a print media to speak of here ( NYC) . Gay City News *claims* a circulation of 50K. And it's FREE.

Casualties of the digital era?

Seems like most of the real-life lgbt advocacy groups and publications have dried up and been replaced by these sham websites.

That leaves I guess, elected officials. O ye gods help us.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
11. If you find out, let me know. I'd like to have regular guests from them on my show.
Sat Apr 12, 2014, 10:10 AM
Apr 2014

Just about every other Liberal/Progressive organization is dying to do radio and TV. Getting a representative from any LGBT organization on my show is harder than getting one of the top ten actors/actresses.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
3. Next time they call, ask them how Coke's LGBT policies are in Russia or Uganda...
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 05:34 PM
Apr 2014

It's good business for them here, it's good business for the same corporations to ignore us in those companies...Coke and most of the others are not on our side because it's the right thing to do...it's because it's the $ thing to do.

DemocraticWing

(1,290 posts)
5. Our community has lost our activist identity in some ways.
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 10:19 PM
Apr 2014

Selling ourselves out to corporations might help in the short run, but it will kill LGBT people along with everybody else in the long run.

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
8. More and more I get the feeling that these "organizations" are now websites. And that's all.
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 09:24 AM
Apr 2014

And it's not just HRC. I think it's symptomatic of the internet age. I had an issue w. GLSEN last year. Wanted advice/guidance on a local NYS practice related to education and LGBT. ( Isn't that what GLSEN is *for*? ) At least three emails to "contact". None of which was acknowledged. Two to whatever/whomever is the GLSEN equivalent of exec director. Nothing.

Yet my inbox fairly overfloweth w. "updates", "action alerts" and assorted $$$ appeals. From *GLSEN*.

It's not JUST lgbt groups ( Or should I say "sites", since apparently that's all they are. Not "groups".) I had a similar engagement w. ACLU. ( They were better, actually; someone at least contacted me back. But not really helpful beyond that. And, yes... i've been sending $$$ to ACLU since I could talk.)

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
12. It's even worse, they are in bed with the worst kind of people.
Sat Apr 12, 2014, 11:19 AM
Apr 2014
HRC and the vulture fund: Making Third World poverty pay for LGBT rights

http://www.democraticunderground.com/113733540

HRC Co-Hosts Historic Breakfast at the World Economic Forum in Davos

http://www.democraticunderground.com/113734740

HRC is in bed with republican neocons. Singer, who runs a hedge fund called Elliott Management, and Daniel S. Loeb, who runs another called Third Point LLC. They’re both conservatives and huge donors to the Republican Party. Singer underwrote last year’s GOP National Convention with $1 million of largesse. One operative called him “the big power broker in the Republican financial world.”

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