I hesitate to assign motive

Surely in retrospect, that DUer realizes how much ignorance is on display there, at least I hope so.

and I don't think it violates the purpose of this forum. I would suggest alerting as a call out. I do think it is quite possibly a call out, but I won't remove it for violating the purpose of this forum as discussing posts which are homophobic is a purpose of this forum.

I would let it stand. Make them aware that we notice it and let others see it, too. Just my opinion.

We do have absolute power to enforce our purpose but actually no power to enforce terms of service. If a jury decides that thread is a call out, then I can't just go and reinstate it. Nor, could I reverse a jury decision that went the other way.

But all a jury can do is to hide a post or a thread if it violates the TOS. I meant that we can decide (if the TOS option isn't clicked,) if a thread stays open or not. Everything else is - unfortunately - not in our hands, but how we handle this group is, juries or not.

And it's a random game with juries anyway. I could repost the whole thing and they might decide to leave it open. (Yes, I'm not this fond of the jury system.)

If they want to alert on it as a call out, fine. I couldn't find any rules against it in the TOS, so this may be defunct, too. Unless it's threatening. There's a whole bunch of leeway.

In my opinion, violations of TOS trump call-outs.

Although there is another thread in this where posters seem to think homophobia should be tolerated .

I did find it homophobic, or at least trying to make equality and civil rights for ALL into some kind of contest. I have assumptions about the poster (I know, assume equals...) but s/he may hold these ideas as legitimate and IMO, they need to be addressed and the poster sorely needs education in reality.

Yes, people of color endured centuries of discimination, abuse, etc. And so did we. Could we "pass" sometimes? Sure--but that took a deep psychological toll, as did the potentially fatal dangers if we dared to find community.

Regardless, it's not a contest.

If one of us is chained, none of us are free.

The poster compares a black woman's problems with that of a wealthy, white, gay man, without ever considering what the situation is for African American lesbians.

Incredible homophobia.

I think I am in a strange minority in our forum here being white and gay but not thinking that homophobia is the same as the struggle against racism.

Those posts are ignorant--not just of queer history but also race history.

Post one: There was a growing and vibrant black middle class prior to the Civil Rights laws of the 1960's and many blacks were still discriminated against. Money had nothing to do with it, hate did. Hate is just as alive today (albeit more closeted) so places would still display their hate if they are allowed to. It is true that people would be less accepting of that hate, so it may hurt businesses more now than 40 years ago. Again, I don't think I would call this a homophobic statement, just an ignorant one.

Post two: I am not sure why the LCR's are being brought up but they have to be the most unrepresentative body of gay people possible. That's like saying Herman Cain and Condi Rice represent all black people. It isn't homophobic, again, to cite them, but it is ignorant. He again goes on about money and class, but I think he still misses the point. That point he is missing, though, is more about race than gayness, IMO.

I agree, though, with this: "Sorry, you're in a losing battle if you're trying to convince people that being a gay male is comparable to centuries of being black or female. It's not a contest." It isn't the same thing, and it certainly isn't a contest.
Gay people were never enslaved for being gay. Gayness isn't passed down through generations. Black people can't lie about being black. (Almost) no black person or woman has ever had to come out of the closet as black or female. No one thinks they can "cure" black people. Gay people were never counted as fractions of people (unless they were black). Gays have never been denied the right to vote simply for being gay. "Driving While Gay" doesn't conjure the image as "Driving While Black." Black people have never had all of their private sex lives criminalized. Gay people have been sold into marriages.

These are generalizations, so I am sure they will be attacked. I am sure someone will point how homophobic I am, which is fine, if it makes them feel better to be more "gay" than I. But I will not belittle or ignore the plight of my black brothers and sisters (or my children) just to prove that I am oppressed too.

LGBT-related laws by country or territory

In modern times nine countries have no official heterosexist discrimination. They are Argentina, Belgium, Canada,[31][32] Iceland, Netherlands, Norway, Sweden, South Africa, and Spain. This full non-discrimination includes the rights of marriage and adoption. Portugal has also marriage rights for same-sex couples but this right does not include same-sex adoption. The Canadian Blood Services’ policy indefinitely defers any man who has sex with another man, even once, since 1977.[33] LGBT people in the US face different laws for certain medical procedures than other groups. For example, gay men have been prohibited from giving blood since 1983,[34][35] and George W. Bush's FDA guidelines barred them from being sperm donors as of 2005, even though all donated sperm is screened for sexually-transmitted diseases.[36][citation needed]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_by_country_or_territory#LGBT-related_laws_by_country_or_territory

Honestly, I am thoroughly amazed that a gay man is not aware of the worldwide bigotry against LGBTs.

are equivalent to what blacks experienced over the last 500 years.

We can't donate blood or sperm? You're right, that's wrong. So is this:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2571643/pdf/jnma00274-0083.pdf

We have not been denied medical treatment for being gay.

We can't get married. This is wrong. Slaves also were denied the right to marry.
http://www.nytimes.com/1995/04/09/opinion/l-slavery-denied-legal-marriage-to-blacks-655096.html

When we bought and sold as property? When were we forcibly taken from our homes? When were we taken from our families? When were wrongly convicted because of our gayness? When were we denied elementary education? When was our right to vote taken from us? It was illegal to teach a slave to read. We can name a 1000 things that happened during the African Diaspora that never happened to gay people. Why should we even try to compare it?

I didn't say we were treated fairly. I never said we were not discriminated against. In fact, I pointed out some things that have been to us that have not been done to other groups. But, let's not pretend that our experiences are the same as the black experience. It denies truth in both perspectives.

Discrimination is wrong.

just as bad as denying equality, by claiming LGBTs have had an easier oppression.It is still a civil rights issue. I don't care what other groups say about us, just don't get in the way

In any case, this isn't the oppression olympics. Discrimination is wrong.

And there have been numerous incidences of emergency medical personnel refusing to give care to trandgender people. We, as a group, HAVE been denied medical treatment.

The Oppression Olympics stance always irritates me. Injustice against any of us is injustice against all of us. Civil rights are civil rights and we should ALL have them. It's not a contest.

For several hundred years America was to
serve as a haven for minorities threatened with religious or political
persecution in other lands. What then did it offer the homosexual?
Not, assuredly, liberty or the pursuit of happiness. Indeed, it appears
that in 1776 male homosexuals in the original 13 colonies were
universally subject to the death penalty, and that in earlier times, for a
brief period in one colony, lesbians had been liable to the same punishment
for relations with other women. The following essay is an
attempt to trace the capital laws against homosexuals in these colonies
from their origin in the first settlements until their abolition after the
Revolution.

(More)

http://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1061&context=englishfacpubs

of discrimination in gay history. My parents didn't know anything about gay history when I was growing up. I never learned about our past because there was no one there to teach me. My kids grew up knowing about black discrimination because it was taught to them. They heard stories. It is part of their shared heritage. There is nothing about these stories and this history that offer me a shared experience. The same is not true for the black experience. It is a shared experience; it is a collective culture. You grow up knowing it. No one had to teach my son what Driving While Black means. He knew, long before he could drive. That the thing that makes it so different.... you don't grow up learning about your gay history and culture the same way learns about their race, heritage, and culture.

How is it a question of, my bigotry is bigger than your bigotry?

How does it make a significant case against us comparing our struggle for rights and equality to the struggle of the black community?

The LGBT struggle for equality and basic human rights is no more, or no less, than any other.

Hatred is hatred. Bigotry is bigotry. Repression is repression. Inequality is inequality. Injustice is injustice.

Freedom is still freedom. Rights are still rights.

I stand in solidarity with all people and groups that have ever had to struggle for their natural human rights.

They're all equally important.

Although I have no doubt that the OP is more liberal than that, they have the same mentality of many, many conservatives. They believe what people tell them about other groups. Republicans have Limbaugh and O'Reilly etc. When in doubt a minister or two. IMHO, this person, who admits having little contact with the LGBT community, takes without evidence a point of view offered to them at some point in their past.

Shame on them for being so willfully ignorant. They should try to engage some of our members in discussion to disabuse them of these falsehoods.

Profoundly.

Hard to say whether it's motivated by animus towards gay people or the often problematic combination of heterocentrism and ignorance, but yes, at face value those posts are highly homophobic.

Sorry I am late in posting this but was preoccupied earlier & just realized I had not posted.

I hope the discussion will educate.

The poster is stating that she/he doesn't think that black people are ever gay. According to her, most gay people are wealthy white men, and their problems aren't comparable to those of black people, who are presumably all straight.

TOS violation. Out and out bigotry.