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theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 01:49 PM Jun 2014

For LGBT People, the Pope Is No Hero

For LGBT People, the Pope Is No Hero
Scott Novak
06/20/2014

On Thursday, Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone of San Francisco participated in the homophobic March for Marriage across from the Supreme Court, leading thousands of protesters in prayer against same-sex marriages.

The rally, organized by National Organization for Marriage President Brian Brown, promoted the idea that LGBT relationships are somehow lesser than heterosexual relationships, and it had the full support of the Catholic Church. SF Gate reported that Cordileone told the crowd that he has "'the support of Pope Francis for what we are doing today,' citing approval by the Apostolic Nunciature of the Holy See to the United States, the Vatican's diplomatic mission in Washington."

Pope Francis has certainly brought some good PR to the Church when it comes to LGBT equality. In response to a question about gay priests in the Catholic Church, he replied, "If someone is gay and seeks the Lord with good will, who am I to judge?" He was later named The Advocate's Person of the Year for setting a new tone of compassion for LGBT people within the Church.

But as incidences like the Church's approval of the March for Marriage shows, Pope Francis is not the LGBT rights hero that some media groups have made him out to be. It's important to note that the "who am I to judge" comment was made in reference to celibate gay priests, not about loving, non-heterosexual relationships, therefore remaining consistent with Catholic doctrine. The pope was not saying that LGBT families are just as sacred as heterosexual families, although you wouldn't get that impression from some of the media reports about his remarks. Rather, homosexual relationships are still "intrinsically disordered," as the Catechism of the Catholic Church so eloquently states.... MORE at http://www.huffingtonpost.com/scott-novak/for-lgbt-people-the-pope-_b_5516144.html
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For LGBT People, the Pope Is No Hero (Original Post) theHandpuppet Jun 2014 OP
Nor is he for LGBT allies. Or women who care about autonomy. PeaceNikki Jun 2014 #1
People on DU continue to be utterly dishonest about Francis. It is shameful. Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #2
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #3
SOS, just a new face. n/t RKP5637 Jun 2014 #4
He's status quo... joeybee12 Jun 2014 #5
B.bb.bb....but WAIT! He was on the cover of The Advocate!?! closeupready Jun 2014 #6
I wish I had a nickel for every time that line derailed an LGBT debate theHandpuppet Jun 2014 #7
I know, right - I suspect that amongst the staff at The Advocate closeupready Jun 2014 #8

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
1. Nor is he for LGBT allies. Or women who care about autonomy.
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 02:17 PM
Jun 2014

I think you know how angry it makes me when he's praised here. For anything.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
2. People on DU continue to be utterly dishonest about Francis. It is shameful.
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 06:00 PM
Jun 2014

I hear he's taking the summer off to have pin stripping put on the Renault and putter about Castle Gandolfo with Benedict, Cardinal Law and Bono.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
3. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 06:27 PM
Jun 2014

I understand people's desire for real change - and I share that desire myself - but Francis ain't it.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
6. B.bb.bb....but WAIT! He was on the cover of The Advocate!?!
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 01:36 PM
Jun 2014

Does that mean NOTHING to you people? Next you'll be demanding pink unicorns!

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
7. I wish I had a nickel for every time that line derailed an LGBT debate
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 03:40 PM
Jun 2014

The Advocate did a great disservice to the LGBTQ community with that cover and if they had any integrity they'd offer a public apology. I'm not holding my breath.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
8. I know, right - I suspect that amongst the staff at The Advocate
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 03:42 PM
Jun 2014

(or the decisionmakers there), there are some active Catholics...? I suppose they argue to themselves "change from within". Pointless, IMO, but there you go.

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