god FUCKING damn, and i get shit around here and elsewhere for not being tolerant enough

FUCK THIS!

Just watched a video with some religious fundie down at the courthouse.

I'd like to cram their rights where the sun doesn't shine. Poor persecuted fundies! Is your God so threatened because two people in love want to marry?

I AM FUCKING PISSED OFF!!!

Trying to follow the latest developments here -- http://www.wcpo.com/news/local-news/same-sex-marriage-hearings-prompt-tight-security-at-federal-courthouse-in-cincinnati

you uncomfortable, you stupid bitch!

That's what they always say when someone tries to achieve equal rights, whether it be LGBT, women, minorities, etc. Just be patient and we'll get back to you.

really irritating.

jesus, being a str8t white male I am embarrassed all day everyday

teaparty-itis should be labeled a psychological disorder.

from growing past adolescence so they deal with all life issues as a child would

This is what we're up against.

Supreme Court Unanimously Spanked Sixth Circuit Health Care Judge For Manipulating Law To Benefit GOP
by Ian Millhiser Posted on May 11, 2011

(excerpt)
...In 2008, just weeks before the presidential election, the Ohio Republican Party sued the state seeking to prevent as many as 200,000 registered voters from having their votes counted. Judge Sutton wrote an opinion that siding with the state GOP.

Three days later, the Supreme Court unanimously reversed Sutton in a rare two-page order. That very brief order rested largely on a 2001 decision called Alexander v. Sandoval — and the attorney who successfully convinced the Supreme Court to decide Sandoval the way it did was none other than Jeffrey Sutton.

Indeed, before Sutton became a judge, Sutton was one of the nation’s leading advocates for conservative states-rights positions and for cutting off ordinary Americans’ access to courts. Sutton devoted much of his career to preventing people with disabilities, religious minorities and even children who are illegally deprived of Medicaid coverage from holding states accountable in federal court. Sutton also served as an officer in the conservative Federalist Society’s Federalism and Separation of Powers practice group.

Yet when the State of Ohio claimed the right to conduct its own elections, Sutton not only abandoned his commitment to states-rights in order to side with the Ohio Republican Party, he defied a Supreme Court decision that he himself won before the Supreme Court. It is simply unimaginable that Sutton was unaware of the Sandoval decision when he chose to ignore it in the Ohio GOP’s lawsuit....

MORE at http://thinkprogress.org/health/2011/05/11/172078/sutton-brunner/

And if he rules the way the Constitution almost forces him to (that is, in favor of marriage equality)a lot of his buddies are going to be seriously pissed at him.

If he is able to punt the decision to the electorate he's off the hook. Given the states in his circuit it's likely that marriage equality wouldn't pass, but even if it did, his hands are clean.

So what we really have here is a coward.

http://www.ca6.uscourts.gov/internet/default.html

Louisville Courier Journal
Gay marriage appeals get GOP-leaning panel
Andrew Wolfson, The Courier-Journal 10:14 p.m. EDT July 23, 2014

(excerpt)
That judge, Jeffrey S. Sutton, writing in March in Harvard Law Review, said, "Count me as a skeptic when it comes to the idea that this day and age suffers from a shortage of constitutional rights."

Sutton also wrote an opinion in 2012 for the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals reinstating a suit filed by a graduate counseling student and evangelical Christian who was expelled from Eastern Michigan University when she refused to work with clients in same-sex relationships.

The two other judges who will hear the gay marriage cases Aug. 6 are Deborah L. Cook and Martha Craig Daughtrey.

Daughtrey, a senior judge appointed by President Bill Clinton, is known for opposing the death penalty and supporting affirmative action and other liberal views, while Cook, in her previous position on the Ohio Supreme Court, ruled against injured workers, consumers and victims of discrimination....

http://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/2014/07/23/kentucky-gay-marriage-appeal-heard-panel-conservative-judges/13016615/

Happiness.

http://www.wcpo.com/news/news-photo-gallery/downtown-cincinnati-center-of-same-sex-marriage-rally-protest-as-court-hears-cases

the legal right to marry.

The court really can only confer one of those things, and that's what we're asking it to do! Confer the legal right to marry.

Perfectly stated.

fucked stupid is this jerk. If it worked so damn well, none of this would be necessary. I guess next we can put the civil rights legislation of the 60's up for a vote too. Absolute moron!

http://www.wcpo.com/news/local-news/same-sex-marriage-hearings-prompt-tight-security-at-federal-courthouse-in-cincinnati

"I would have thought the best way to get respect and dignity is through the democratic process," said Sutton, a George W. Bush nominee. "Nothing happens as quickly as we'd like it."

Judge Martha Craig Daughtrey, a Bill Clinton nominee, said that historically, courts have had to intervene when individual constitutional rights are being violated, such as overturning state laws against interracial marriage and giving women the right to vote, pointing out that the latter took decades.

"Do you have any knowledge of how many years I'm talking about, going into every state, every city, every state board of elections, for 70 years?" she said. "It didn't work. It took an amendment to the Constitution."

Besides, gay marriage already is legal in more than a quarter of the states, and "it doesn't look like the sky has fallen in," Daughtrey said....

There are WAY TOO MANY people who think our struggle is "winding down" and do not understand the gravity of what is really happening. I will say, there are some really strong GLBT allies at this site and that pleases me and helps me stay grounded.

It's hard to stay focused and upbeat when it's all too obvious (the thread I posted on LBN being a prime example) that too many either don't pay much attention to the battle for LGBT rights now or simply don't understand the importance of these rulings, which reaches even beyond LGBT rights. It's only for the persistent support of some of our allies that I don't just give up trying to press these issues on DU.

I have been to spent and horrified at what I have been seeing here, is posting is a rarity right now because otherwise I would go off like a pistol.

Just know this Oklahomo appreciates what you are doing!

Sometimes it can seem as if we need to be ten different people in order to wage the battles on endless fronts. There are so many issues I'd like to engage but I know I simply can't or I'd be burned out within a week. The most I can do is focus on a few (the rights of women and LGBTs, plus Appalachia) and lend some brief support to others out there fighting the rest of the battles, even if it's just to rec their threads. I'm sure others do the same.

You certainly don't have to thank me -- just feeling a bit frustrated right now by the unrelenting assault on the rights of women and LGBTs-- but your support is appreciated.

It is difficult, sometimes, to remember we are all carrying our personal baggage and concerns.

I really understand your frustration. When the law here in OK was ruled unconstitutional, I was thrilled, but then the "stay" was introduced. The appeals court finally ruled, in our favor, but the stay is still in place and now it goes on to another court. It is like being in a hatful limbo.

I wanted to let you know there is a new group at DU. I don't know if it would be of interest, but here it is: Eating Disorders Support .

But perhaps that will be the final straw that sends this to the Supreme Court. My wife and I have just given up hoping we can get married here where we live (in WV the law was affected by another court decision but the AG here said he will wait for the SC) so we will be traveling to Maryland next week for a license. 24 years together and we're still having to fight this shit -- my wife with a recently diagnosed heart condition which means a valve replacement is imminent -- we just can't wait for these bigots to get the hell out of the way and decide we deserve to be treated like human beings. She's really not strong enough right now for us to even plan the honeymoon we should have had a quarter century ago and for her to worry about things like that makes me just want to explode in the face of every bigot and bigot-enabler.

I saw the announcement for the Eating Disorders Support group, which I think is great and has the potential to help many people. Just getting folks to talk to one another will be a tremendous step as so many suffer in silence or are met with intolerance.

We have been together for almost 13 years. I am having some health issues now, but thankfully, his company provides for me too. Nothing to the level of your wife, but very frustrating because after 7 months and thousands of dollars, they still don't know what the hell is wrong!

I wish you both the best on your upcoming nuptials in Maryland! May everyday be a honeymoon.

And any God in whose sight our love is an "intrinsic evil" isn't any damn god I'd get down on my knees and worship. How dare anyone pray against gay marriage as if our love sullies anyone's "sanctity of marriage".

I wish you the best with your health problems, which I'm aware you've been battling for some time. My wife's heart problem was the result of radiation treatments many years ago for Hodgkin's.

My usual response usually goes along the lines of insulting their patriotism. Generally really pisses them off.

It usually goes along the lines of "I didn't realize you hated America so much. I guess by your own logic, the founding fathers should have tried to wind King Georges heart and mind in order to get their freedom? Should they have waited for British Parliament, and the landed gentry of the British isles to vote on their rights? Would you have likewise counseled the colonists to be patient? Are you sure you are not a decedent of Benedict Arnold, that was his position as well on fighting for rights."

Then I sit back and enjoy the ranting and raving... few things ticks off a right winger as much as insulting their patriotism