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The Irish Times
Where were the men behind the mother and baby homes?
Opinion: This was a society run by men, for men
Have the men had enough?
In the Scottish Highlands, where my mother comes from, this was a well-known phrase used by the women at the end of meals before the menfolk went back to the fields. Indeed it remains current to this day and was used as the title of a novel reflecting that kind of society...
...Have the men not had enough? For each one of these babies, there was a man. There was an abusive father, uncle, brother, friend. There was perhaps a drunken young man or an angry old one. There was a snatched moment of lust or force in a field or a toilet at a dance. In some cases, perhaps, there was a hidden love.
But were the men watching as these women were sent away? Were they listening as these women wailed in fear and anguish as they gave birth in ignominy far from home? Did they hear them cry out as they had their soft and needy newborn children snatched from them as their breasts ached with unwanted milk? Did they think of these women then or when they married later or when they watched their wives or daughters tenderly embrace their own children or grandchildren? Did they wonder ever where these babies were? Do they know what it is to feel an aching unrelenting longing still 50 years on? Have they ever felt the shame?
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PDJane
(10,103 posts)Warpy
(111,319 posts)After all, the prevailing "wisdom" was that sex made a woman filthy, an object deserving of scorn. Even married sex was looked down on because the church said a baby should result from every single sex act.
The men simply didn't care, the woman and their offspring were not their problem.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)unwanted pregnancy as if the woman did it totally by herself.
I don't have enough bad words to say exactly what I think of that.
theHandpuppet
(19,964 posts)I have, more than once. The last time was when an acquaintance of mine, complaining of his unhappy marriage, remarked to me that he and his wife probably would not have married if "she hadn't gotten herself pregnant".
I replied by telling him how remarkable that was and that he should call the papers at once about his wife and her ability to impregnate herself! Was it a virgin birth? Was it the first recorded case of human parthenogenesis? Why, this was amazing news and he should go public with it, for the sake of science!
That shut him right up.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)And extra points for shutting him up.
CrispyQ
(36,492 posts)All the rest assumed it was on me. I'm actually okay with that, since I'm the one holding the bag if things go south, so to speak, but I still found it odd that only one was concerned enough to even ask. Wouldn't you want to be a little more responsible about sowing your seed? That's how completely divorced reproduction is from sex for most men. Every time we have sex, reproduction is a consideration, but for most men, it's not even a glimmer of a thought.