Women's Rights & Issues

Panich52

(5,829 posts) Sat Feb 7, 2015, 12:42 PM Feb 2015

Please don't use "anti-abortion" Words/labels matter (opinion)

Calling those who are against reproductive choice "anti-abortion" is giving their arguments an implied credibility. No one is "pro-abortion."

Those who fight against the procedure are "anti-choice." Their screeds paint their opposition as heartless, immoral and amoral by calling them "pro-abortion."

Also refrain from calling anti-choicers "right-to-lifers" - as they show no concern for the lives of women. Their only concern is to deprive women of the right to make their own decisions.

Over the past 45 years, the right wing has proven the value of spin -- the way phrasing an issue can affect public influence. It's time we who value women's health and choices, especially when it comes to reproductive decisions, take the conversation back.

We're ALL anti-abortion. But most of us are NOT anti-choice.

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Please don't use "anti-abortion" Words/labels matter (opinion) (Original Post) Panich52 Feb 2015 OP

I'm not anti-abortion. I don't see abortion as bad medical procedure the way you apparently do. nt valerief Feb 2015 #1

I believe the poster is referring to the way the woman-haters of the reichwing have framed niyad Feb 2015 #3

So the reichwing get the last word? Fuck them. Starving people is murder. valerief Feb 2015 #4

are you deliberately missing the point? the poster is not condeming abortion, but talking niyad Feb 2015 #5

Are you missing the point? Why should the reichwing get to frame the issue at all? Duh. nt valerief Feb 2015 #6

RW 'gets' to frame tge issue only because they've perfected the technique Panich52 Feb 2015 #8

We need to call bullshit when we see it. nt valerief Feb 2015 #10

It WAS a bad med procedure - before 1973. Then it became a safe one. Panich52 Feb 2015 #7

I'm not tired of being pro-abortion. I'm also pro-heart transplant, pro-high blood pressure valerief Feb 2015 #9

I prefer "woman-hating pro-forced birthers" (and that is on a good day!) niyad Feb 2015 #2

valerief

(53,235 posts)

1. I'm not anti-abortion. I don't see abortion as bad medical procedure the way you apparently do. nt

Reply to Panich52 (Original post)

Sat Feb 7, 2015, 12:58 PM

Feb 2015

niyad

(113,513 posts)

3. I believe the poster is referring to the way the woman-haters of the reichwing have framed

Reply to valerief (Reply #1)

Sat Feb 7, 2015, 02:03 PM

Feb 2015

the issue, and the fact that we should not go along with that framing. it has nothing to do with the actual legal medical procedure, as we have discussed repeatedly here.

valerief

(53,235 posts)

4. So the reichwing get the last word? Fuck them. Starving people is murder.

Reply to niyad (Reply #3)

Sat Feb 7, 2015, 02:21 PM

Feb 2015

Abortion isn't.

niyad

(113,513 posts)

5. are you deliberately missing the point? the poster is not condeming abortion, but talking

Reply to valerief (Reply #4)

Sat Feb 7, 2015, 02:28 PM

Feb 2015

about how the issue is framed. surely that is not so difficult to understand.

valerief

(53,235 posts)

6. Are you missing the point? Why should the reichwing get to frame the issue at all? Duh. nt

Reply to niyad (Reply #5)

Sat Feb 7, 2015, 02:57 PM

Feb 2015

Panich52

(5,829 posts)

8. RW 'gets' to frame tge issue only because they've perfected the technique

Reply to valerief (Reply #6)

Sun Feb 8, 2015, 02:32 AM

Feb 2015

They've had much more practice at spin. LW always depended on truth & facts. We need to unspin their BS.

valerief

(53,235 posts)

10. We need to call bullshit when we see it. nt

Reply to Panich52 (Reply #8)

Sun Feb 8, 2015, 12:18 PM

Feb 2015

Panich52

(5,829 posts)

7. It WAS a bad med procedure - before 1973. Then it became a safe one.

Reply to valerief (Reply #1)

Sun Feb 8, 2015, 02:29 AM

Feb 2015

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Other replies to you are right. I'm 100% pro-choice. That means safe, affordable procedures that don't require 'waiting' periods, extended travel, gov't intrusion, ...

But I'm sick & tired of the antis claiming ANYONE is PRO- abortion so they can claim pro-choice equals immorality of any kind.

The obverse - antis are not anti-abortion, they're anti-choice.

valerief

(53,235 posts)

9. I'm not tired of being pro-abortion. I'm also pro-heart transplant, pro-high blood pressure

Reply to Panich52 (Reply #7)

Sun Feb 8, 2015, 12:17 PM

Feb 2015

medication, pro-tumor removal surgery, pro-dialysis. I'm pro-necessary medical procedures. I'm also anti-wimp and anti-reactionary.

niyad

(113,513 posts)

2. I prefer "woman-hating pro-forced birthers" (and that is on a good day!)

Reply to Panich52 (Original post)

Sat Feb 7, 2015, 02:02 PM

Feb 2015

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