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Panich52

(5,829 posts)
Wed May 27, 2015, 12:04 PM May 2015

GOP SENATORS CALL FOR OVER-THE-COUNTER BIRTH CONTROL: help or ploy?

The Hill

GOP SENATORS CALL FOR OVER-THE-COUNTER BIRTH CONTROL

Sen. Cory Gardner (R-Colo.) is leading a new push to allow women to buy birth control without a prescription, hoping to deliver on one of the biggest promises of his freshman Senate campaign last year.

A half-dozen Senate Republicans have signed onto Gardner's bill, which would require drug companies that sell contraceptives to file an application to sell their products over the counter.

"Most other drugs with such a long history of safe and routine use are available for purchase over the counter, and contraception should join them," Gardner wrote in a statement. He said his bill would benefit women in rural and underserved areas, while also saving people money and time by "increasing competition and availability."

The Colorado Republican's push to make birth control available over-the-counter is not winning him more allies among women's reproductive health groups, however.

Groups like Planned Parenthood have opposed the idea, which they argue could drive up contraception prices.

The group has pointed to ObamaCare's contraception mandate -- requiring insurance plans to cover all FDA-approved forms of birth control -- and said that insurers may no longer cover the medication if it's not prescribed by a doctor.

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On the surface it seems a great benefit to have ready-access to conteaceptives. But there's big catches in this maneuver: low income women are still stuck with the cost and it does nothing for those who choose IUDs and work for repressive theocrats who deny birth control (per disasterously wrong Hobby Lobby decision). One can't help wondering if the bill is merely a political ploy to win votes (worked f/ one already).

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GOP SENATORS CALL FOR OVER-THE-COUNTER BIRTH CONTROL: help or ploy? (Original Post) Panich52 May 2015 OP
PLOY, this is another attempt to keep your insurance companies from onecaliberal May 2015 #1
Maybe. Usually, once a medicine becomes OTC, the price is drastically reduced, plus generic makers still_one May 2015 #7
No most of the time they don't. onecaliberal May 2015 #10
You are not correct. For example, Zantac you can buy the generic Walgreens, CVS brand for a greatly still_one May 2015 #11
I am talking about birth control. That is what the republicans are after in this bill. onecaliberal May 2015 #14
Can congress overrule the FDA? It is the FDAs job to determine if drugs still_one May 2015 #16
Good question, I don't know the answer. onecaliberal May 2015 #17
Congress can make laws to force OTC birth control pills even if the FDA cautions against it Novara May 2015 #18
good perspective, thanks still_one May 2015 #19
fuck cory gardner and the road he horsed in on fizzgig May 2015 #2
Didn't he get in because the NRA was involved? still_one May 2015 #6
the nra was involved in the state lege recalls a few years back fizzgig May 2015 #9
That is a problem, our country is being taken over by the koch's still_one May 2015 #12
Birth Control Pills do have potential issues that should be monitored by a physician. Birth control still_one May 2015 #3
And with pharmacists citing "conscience" many women won't have access Novara May 2015 #4
Pharmacies that serve the public must comply with filling prescriptions. If the pharmacy has an still_one May 2015 #5
It has already happened Novara May 2015 #8
What I am saying is federal discrimination laws should step in. Luckily there are valid online still_one May 2015 #13
I agree, but this country is heading in the opposite direction.... Novara May 2015 #15
gardner is no friend of women, so I can guarantee whatever he does has niyad May 2015 #20

onecaliberal

(32,898 posts)
1. PLOY, this is another attempt to keep your insurance companies from
Wed May 27, 2015, 12:06 PM
May 2015

covering your medication. Republicans do NOT care about women, and they never will.

still_one

(92,403 posts)
7. Maybe. Usually, once a medicine becomes OTC, the price is drastically reduced, plus generic makers
Wed May 27, 2015, 12:20 PM
May 2015

jump on board also.

In addition, some medical insurance does cover OTC products such as allergy etc.

onecaliberal

(32,898 posts)
10. No most of the time they don't.
Wed May 27, 2015, 01:34 PM
May 2015

This IS a ploy by republicans to remove the mandate in Obamacare for covering BC. Nothing more! It's more bullshit from the bullshit party

still_one

(92,403 posts)
11. You are not correct. For example, Zantac you can buy the generic Walgreens, CVS brand for a greatly
Wed May 27, 2015, 02:34 PM
May 2015

reduced price that the Rx version costs, and I can name numerous examples.

As for your speculation to remove ACA coverage of birth control, perhaps that is valid, and that is why organizations such as planned parenthood are so important to provide birth control at low cost to those with or without insurance

Regardless, I would be very surprised if the FDA would approve the OTC for birth control pills, because of potential side-effects involved



onecaliberal

(32,898 posts)
14. I am talking about birth control. That is what the republicans are after in this bill.
Wed May 27, 2015, 03:41 PM
May 2015

Women on BC should be followed by their physician. There is ONE reason only republicans want this legislation.

still_one

(92,403 posts)
16. Can congress overrule the FDA? It is the FDAs job to determine if drugs
Wed May 27, 2015, 04:45 PM
May 2015

should go OTC

They are the ones who prevented Viagra from being OTC because of potential side effects

Novara

(5,851 posts)
18. Congress can make laws to force OTC birth control pills even if the FDA cautions against it
Thu May 28, 2015, 07:17 AM
May 2015

However, this type of law isn't likely to pass, and the president will veto it.

The FDA will object mightily - hormonal medication isn't something they'd ever agree should be OTC. And I think that even in this political climate, enough congressmembers would be cautious to rule against the FDA because it would be politically stupid, especially on medication (medical devices and food labeling rules are another thing entirely). And you know they value their political hides above all else.

fizzgig

(24,146 posts)
2. fuck cory gardner and the road he horsed in on
Wed May 27, 2015, 12:11 PM
May 2015

i CANNOT believe my state dumped mark udall for that smarmy, sleazy puke.

fizzgig

(24,146 posts)
9. the nra was involved in the state lege recalls a few years back
Wed May 27, 2015, 12:25 PM
May 2015

stemming from the gun control laws passed after the aurora shooting.

gardner is a koch whore and all sorts of dark money was pumped into that race.

still_one

(92,403 posts)
3. Birth Control Pills do have potential issues that should be monitored by a physician. Birth control
Wed May 27, 2015, 12:12 PM
May 2015

have also been associated with an increase in blood pressure, benign liver tumors, and a slight increase in the risk of developing cervical cancer.

It is a form of hormonal contraception that is extremely effective, but I believe it should require a prescription, the same as that require for other hormonal treatments such as testosterone because of potential issues



Novara

(5,851 posts)
4. And with pharmacists citing "conscience" many women won't have access
Wed May 27, 2015, 12:12 PM
May 2015

The GOP thinks women are dumb enough to think this is a good thing. What it does, is open up an entire slew of cans of worms for keeping birth control out of the hands of women. Plus, as was mentioned, other forms of BC other than the pill won't be covered. Some of these are more effective than the pill.

Can you imagine the small pharmacies that will sue because they don't want to carry any BC? You know it'll happen, setting another precedent for women not to get the care they are entitled to.

still_one

(92,403 posts)
5. Pharmacies that serve the public must comply with filling prescriptions. If the pharmacy has an
Wed May 27, 2015, 12:15 PM
May 2015

individual who has issues with filling certain prescriptions, the pharmacy should be required to have a pharmacist on duty who doesn't NOT have any issues with filling any prescriptions

Novara

(5,851 posts)
8. It has already happened
Wed May 27, 2015, 12:23 PM
May 2015
Georgia Walmart Cites ‘Conscience Clause,’ Refuses To Fill Prescription

<snip>

When asked why the pharmacy would not fill the prescription, pharmacist Sandip Patel said that under existing Georgia law, a pharmacist can refuse to fill certain prescriptions.


It was to treat a woman after she miscarried but the principle is the same - if they have a "moral" objection they will refuse to fill the prescription.

still_one

(92,403 posts)
13. What I am saying is federal discrimination laws should step in. Luckily there are valid online
Wed May 27, 2015, 02:38 PM
May 2015

pharmacies or alternatives, but in my view any public company whose employee refuses to fill a prescription that the company sells, that person should be fired

The justice department should really get involved in this

In fact the Constitutionality of this Georgia law should really be challenged. This could apply to other prescription drugs also.

Novara

(5,851 posts)
15. I agree, but this country is heading in the opposite direction....
Wed May 27, 2015, 04:19 PM
May 2015

....with "religious freedom" laws and the like. Don't forget the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby and their objections to the ACA's mandate for birth control. To me, this is a violation of the Establishment Clause - the employer is forcing their employees to abide by their religious beliefs. Private companies have no business forcing their religious beliefs on their employees. But we all know how that turned out.

niyad

(113,573 posts)
20. gardner is no friend of women, so I can guarantee whatever he does has
Fri May 29, 2015, 01:29 AM
May 2015

that as its basis.

. . . .
Have you seen our newest ad? Colorado women lay out the truth about Congressman Gardner's 8-year crusade to deny a woman's right to make her own choices. Even though Coloradans twice rejected the radically anti-choice Personhood ballot initiatives, Congressman Gardner continues to push for a nationwide Personhood law in Congress, which would outlaw abortion even in the case of rape and incest and ban common forms of birth control. He even sponsored a bill to make abortion a Class 3 felony. Seriously? It's 2014!

. . .

http://www.ontheissues.org/house/Cory_Gardner_Abortion.htm

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