First, that early studies using data from large national populations might produce oversimplified findings, and lets not forget the potential influence by special interests, including the meat, dairy, and corn industries.

Better studies might look to smaller populations and their diets, and the influence of genetics on what constitutes "healthy foods".

Trans fats are rare in nature, common in processed foods, and processed foods are the mainstay of BIG and influential industries and for many, especially the poorest in our nation, it can be hard to avoid these, along with fried foods and starchy carb laden treats.

I try to follow the low-carb, high protein, lots of veggies and fruits routine and the typical diet described in the article sounds great:

one week coffee is good for you..the next week it is bad.. then lather rinse repeat.. same for this debate about carbs and fats..

I keep basically a vegan diet with fish.. (pescetarian) and no added sugars I dropped 80 pounds over the course of three years.. my numbers are awesome.. total chol..ldl..hdl,, trig..

If you eats lean meats, fresh vegs and fruit, mono and poly unsaturated oils.. whole grain breads and pastas.. watch the sugar intake.. your good to go..

Might as well just eat a quarter cup of white sugar and call it good.

Vegetable oil is non-nutritive and worthless to the human body. You would benefit by eating non-lean meat and more natural saturated fats like coconut oil.

Sounds like you're getting there, but you're still apparently using the food pyramid as a guide. That is a huge mistake! Carbs are junk food.

that all carbs are equivalent white sugar. I think the attempt to develop the glycemic index is a preliminary step in this study, albeit a flawed method. My question is whether complex carbs such as potatoes (Especially with the skins on) or baked goods made with only whole grain flour are indeed treated the same way by the body as raw sugar. It's another question whether eating saturated fats (butter) and/or olive oil with the complex carb makes any difference. (buttered mashed potatoes! )There may be a difference between whole grain bread made with butter and whole grain bread made with canola oil.

I'm mostly referring to grain based carbs (Bread, Rice and Pasta) being junk food. Potato skins are certainly good eats!

I eat all of them in moderation, but don't make them the basis of my diet like the government says.

I wore it out cooking and baking those old recipes based many times on German cookery. The next edition focused on cutting fats - it was pretty bad!

That is just a fact..That is the fuel the body uses.. its gasoline if you want to think about it that way..

There is nothing wrong with complex carbs, but too much of anything can overwhelm the system.. nothing wrong with lean meats.have to watch that also.. because animals are the only place you can get cholesterol from.. your body needs a certain amount of it for cell definition in the walls.. but we make more than enough in our own livers to meet that need, and excess cholesterol from ingesting other animals or animal fats overwhelms our livers goes into our bloodstreams and combines with excesses in simple sugars and can be overwhelming to the entire system, combining with excess minerals such as calcium and you get blocked arteries.

You can get into some pretty deep stuff with the corn sugars and bypassing certain digestive arenas.. it all goes through the bodily chemical system.


Moderation in all things and you will be okay..

to glucose and how the body converts healthy fat and protein to glucose. It's not even close. One process is perfectly healthy and the other causes type 2 diabetes.

Your knowledge of dietary cholesterol is very naive. Inflammation causes blocked arteries, not cholesterol.

I lost that 80 pounds and now have great numbers on my chol ldl hdl vldl triglyceride.. went from a 39.9 blockage of the left aorta to basically clear..My glucose level is 85.. I think I will just keep doing what I am doing..

but consider your appraisal of an apple versus apple pie, or a slice of cake with frosting vs a slice of buttered whole grain bread. Most people would say that the apple and slice of bread are "healthier", even if the calorie count is the same. This reaction suggests to me that there is a difference in how the body processes simple vs complex carbs.

Low fat/high carb (The official "healthy" American diet) destroys your body and your mind. Consider yourself lucky if you only get type 2 diabetes.

IMO diet (and the dangerously wrong food pyramid) is the #1 health issue in this country, and most doctors don't care in the least. I will not be their cash-cow.

In both cases, studies were conducted where they limited calories, set the carb/fat balance, and had the subjects exercise. In both cases, the subjects lost weight and had fewer health problems.

In both cases, they declared the carb/fat balance to be the magic that made it work. Utterly ignoring the limited calories and the exercise.

And giving us low-fat Pop-Tarts. And now low-carb Pop-Tarts.

For some reason I can't explain, dietitians are utterly devoted to the idea that one magic thing will fix everything, instead of the combination of diet, calorie intake and exercise.

By now, the low-carb diet’s refrain is a familiar one:

Bread is bad for you. Fat doesn’t matter. Carbs are the real reason you can’t lose weight.

The low-carb universe Dr. Atkins brought into being continues to expand. Low-carb diets, from South Beach to the Zone and beyond, are still the go-to method for weight-loss for millions. These diets’ marketing may differ, but they all share two crucial components: the condemnation of “carbs” and an emphasis on meat and fat for calories. Even the latest diet trend, the Paleo diet, is—despite its increased focus on (some) whole foods—just another variation on the same carbohydrate fears.

In The Low-Carb Fraud, longtime leader in the nutritional science field T. Colin Campbell (author of The China Study and Whole) outlines where (and how) the low-carb proponents get it wrong: where the belief that carbohydrates are bad came from, and why it persists despite all the evidence to the contrary. The foods we misleadingly refer to as “carbs” aren’t all created equal—and treating them that way has major consequences for our nutritional well-being.

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i have trouble dropping weight no matter what, so i go by what makes me feel better. a carb-y diet makes me feel like crap, whereas a diet high in whole, fresh veggies and protein leaves me with energy and a clear head.

i still have to workout like a prize fighter to drop pounds. but that's really not the point -- just feels better to eat better.

By limiting most carbs, one eliminates some of the most allergenic foods that lead to inflammation: wheat, corn and soy. Anyone with anxiety, skin rashes or acne, migraines, depression, insomnia, thyroid, autoimmune diseases, digestive problems such as acid reflux, IBS & Crohns, or a host of other ailments that your doctor can't explain, should try a modified Paleo diet for a month to see what happens. Most people see so much improvement, it's a no brainer to keep going.

When I eat Primal/Paleo I feel like Superman. My SO hasn't had a cavity in a decade when every year before was some kind of dental issue. We sleep better, work out harder and longer without fatigue, and just feel fantastic. No medications necessary in this house which more than offsets the costs of our direct from the farm meat and vegetables. I have turned plenty of friends on to it and so know first hand that it works on the symptoms above.

Meat, organ meat, and lots of fat are what our ancestors ate for hundreds of thousands of years. We would not be able to have the large brains we have without liberal amounts of fat. Agriculture did not exist until 10,000 years ago and that's where the problems began.

A good place to start is Mark's Daily Apple. Read the success stories and see if that sounds like you.