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McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 05:26 PM Dec 2014

Reconsider before you take oral diflucan for an antibiotic associated yeast infection.

Ever wonder why antibiotics have been around for almost a century but the incidence of c. difficile infection---the really nasty enterocolitis that some people get after taking antibiotics--has been rising for the last one to two decades? What happened in the 1990's to change antibiotics? Yes, we got stronger ones--but that was because our normal bacteria got stronger (i.e. more resistant). Something else happened. Drug manufacturers introduced a pill that could treat vaginal yeast infections, eliminating the need for messy vaginal creams.

Here's a few links that have me wondering if that innocent little pill may be killing some good yeast in our GI tract while it kills the "bad" vaginal yeast. From Taiwan, 2006, prior use of an antifungal agent was the only factor associated with an increased incidence of c. difficile after antibiotic use. Does this mean that people who get yeast or other fungal infections after antibiotics have a weaker immune system that makes them more prone to c. difficile? Or, could it mean that the anti-fungal killed some things it shouldn't have killed.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16783456

In case you are wondering if a yeast could help us fight c.difficile, yes, it can. Here is a link about a probiotic yeast that does just that.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC174670/

The rise in c.difficile may also be related to another new wonder drug, the proton pump inhibitors like Prilosec which have all but eliminated the need for surgery to repair bleeding ulcers. These are powerful medications in the fight against ulcer disease---but they may be too strong for some of the folks who take them to control plain old acid reflux. Loss of stomach acid may allow bacteria and spores to survive in the stomach and then to move on to the intestine.

Here is a general link about c. difficile. After reviewing it, I am inclined to suggest that anyone who has to take antibiotics take the mildest, most specific antibiotic, add a probiotic, stop using a proton pump inhibitor (try H2 receptor blockers like Zantac instead, its also otc) if possible (i.e. you are not using it to control life threatening ulcer disease) and do not ask for that diflucan tablet to use afterwards to get rid of the yeast infection.

http://www.australianprescriber.com/magazine/36/4/121/4

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Reconsider before you take oral diflucan for an antibiotic associated yeast infection. (Original Post) McCamy Taylor Dec 2014 OP
I am currently in the ravages of just such an infectuon VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #1
the fecaltransplant (ewww, I know) is evidently curing people of CDiff elehhhhna Dec 2014 #2
yes i have and if this doesnt clear soon VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #3
Look into a poo transplant Warpy Dec 2014 #4
Do probiotics Dorian Gray Dec 2014 #5
 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
1. I am currently in the ravages of just such an infectuon
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 05:38 PM
Dec 2014

Eveb though I tested negative for CDiff. I had dental implant surgery and was prescibed Clindamyocin....little did I know that that particular antibiotic leads to CDiff. I had the procedure 2 months ago and I am still struggling I have been on a bland diet ever since...I really miss coffee.....even though you test negative....sometimes you still have it.....I am in ongoing reatment with a GI now and just finished a round of Cipro....and if it continues....next I have to take Flagyl....an even more harsh anibiotic with a range of side effects of its own....

CDiff can be a terrible disease...some never overcome it. Please be careful about the antibiotics you take....what I am experiencing is miserable

 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
2. the fecaltransplant (ewww, I know) is evidently curing people of CDiff
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 05:49 PM
Dec 2014

but I'll bet you're aware of that. It' not commonly done yet. Some folks are doing them DIY at home.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
3. yes i have and if this doesnt clear soon
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 08:19 PM
Dec 2014

I am considering it.....now they do it with enemas I believe..

Warpy

(111,274 posts)
4. Look into a poo transplant
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 10:36 PM
Dec 2014

I know it sounds awful, but once you're through all the antibiotics it's the one thing that can recolonize your gut with healthy flora quickly, flora that will overwhelm C. diff. and make it an ugly memory.

Eventually they'll refine the bacteria into a pill but for now, the transplant is the best thing for protracted C. diff. and persistent problems after the bad bugs are dead but the colon is still unhealthy.

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