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Eugene

(61,900 posts)
Fri Jun 16, 2017, 07:54 PM Jun 2017

Coconut oil 'as unhealthy as beef fat and butter'

Source: BBC

Coconut oil 'as unhealthy as beef fat and butter'

16 June 2017 Health

Coconut oil is as unhealthy as beef dripping and butter, say US heart experts.

It is packed with saturated fat which can raise "bad" cholesterol, says the American Heart Association in updated advice.

Coconut oil is commonly sold as a health food and some claim the fat in it may be better for us than other saturated fats.

The AHA, however, says there are no good studies to support this.

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Read more: http://www.bbc.com/news/health-40300145
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Coconut oil 'as unhealthy as beef fat and butter' (Original Post) Eugene Jun 2017 OP
SO SICK OF CONTRADICTORY STUDIES!!! True Dough Jun 2017 #1
I am too luvMIdog Jun 2017 #7
That's the best attitude Warpy Jun 2017 #9
Do what I do and cherry pick the study... Laffy Kat Jun 2017 #12
Good advice! True Dough Jun 2017 #13
odds are the beef and dairy industry paid for this "report" ciaobaby Jun 2017 #2
Always had high cholesterol, even during my vegetarian college days Freethinker65 Jun 2017 #3
It is probably best to stick with the diet/lifestyle that works for you mitch96 Jun 2017 #11
the other side re: coconut oil ciaobaby Jun 2017 #4
Thanks n/t emulatorloo Jun 2017 #6
Hyman is a quack. Nt Dr Hobbitstein Jun 2017 #14
Grass fed beef/butter contains heart-healthy omega-3 fatty acids. See Mayo Clinic link: emulatorloo Jun 2017 #5
I personally don't believe natural fats are unhealthy. TexasProgresive Jun 2017 #8
Yep. JenniferJuniper Jun 2017 #10
I agree Tumbulu Jun 2017 #15

True Dough

(17,310 posts)
1. SO SICK OF CONTRADICTORY STUDIES!!!
Fri Jun 16, 2017, 07:56 PM
Jun 2017

Sorry for the caps, but I had to shout it from the rooftop! I'm just going to eat whatever I damn well please, within reason. One day something is the best thing going, the next it will kill you.

Sheesh!!

Warpy

(111,277 posts)
9. That's the best attitude
Fri Jun 16, 2017, 09:00 PM
Jun 2017

as long as you're not trying to live in just one or two foods. Our bodies are designed to tolerate a moderate amount of junk and even some outright poisons, as long as we don't overdo.

I know I've thumbed my nose at most studies since I got away from my parents and switched to real butter, never ate margarine again, despite all the preaching from the anti cholesterol crowd. I've been vindicated on that one. I suppose if I live long enough, I'll be vindicated on the rest.

My advice has always been to discount the miracle health food claims and eat coconut oil if you like coconut oil. Just don't eat it with everything, buckets of it.

Freethinker65

(10,024 posts)
3. Always had high cholesterol, even during my vegetarian college days
Fri Jun 16, 2017, 08:06 PM
Jun 2017

Over three years ago I switched to diet high in coconut oil, animal fats, and butter and my cholesterol, and all, "numbers" have never been better. While my results are certainly anecdotal, and I could be diagnosed with something horrendous in the future, I feel great, have more energy, and as a side benefit have actually lost weight.

It is probably best to stick with the diet/lifestyle that works for you, and avoid those that do not. We will all die of something eventually.

mitch96

(13,912 posts)
11. It is probably best to stick with the diet/lifestyle that works for you
Fri Jun 16, 2017, 09:58 PM
Jun 2017

+1,,,,,, I'm on the other side of the scale.. My numbers and cardiac calcium scores came down by eating a whole food,plant based diet. I just went with the science, not the diet guru's. My doctor complains he can't make a boat payment with people like me staying healthy!
The best health insurance is to insure your health...

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ciaobaby

(1,000 posts)
4. the other side re: coconut oil
Fri Jun 16, 2017, 08:16 PM
Jun 2017
http://drhyman.com/blog/2016/04/06/is-coconut-oil-bad-for-your-cholesterol/

from the article:
That brings us back to coconut oil, which can contain up to 90 percent saturated fat. Interestingly, countries with the highest intakes of coconut oil have the lowest rates of heart disease.

While research shows coconut oil contains higher amounts of saturated fat and does increase total cholesterol, those amounts do not increase your heart attack or stroke risk.

In fact, one study among lean, heart disease- and stroke-free Pacific Islanders who consumed up to 63 percent of their calories from coconut fat found total cholesterol rose but so did their “good” HDL.

There is a huge difference between quality saturated fat in coconut oil or MCT oils, as compared with what you get in a fast food cheeseburger. Lumping them all together becomes like putting cauliflower and a cupcake under the carbohydrate category.


emulatorloo

(44,131 posts)
5. Grass fed beef/butter contains heart-healthy omega-3 fatty acids. See Mayo Clinic link:
Fri Jun 16, 2017, 08:30 PM
Jun 2017
http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/heart-disease/expert-answers/grass-fed-beef/FAQ-20058059

Does grass-fed beef have any heart-health benefits that other types of beef don't?

Answers from Rekha Mankad, M.D.

Grass-fed beef may have some heart-health benefits that other types of beef don't have. When compared with other types of beef, grass-fed beef may have:

Less total fat
More heart-healthy omega-3 fatty acids
More conjugated linoleic acid, a type of fat that's thought to reduce heart disease and cancer risks
More antioxidant vitamins, such as vitamin E

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I don't really buy this notion that coconut oil is evil. Ciaobaby's post is pretty informative.

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
8. I personally don't believe natural fats are unhealthy.
Fri Jun 16, 2017, 08:42 PM
Jun 2017

Processed fats and a diet high in carbohydrates leads to high triglycerides fueling diabetes and other metabolic disorders.

Tumbulu

(6,291 posts)
15. I agree
Sun Jun 18, 2017, 03:48 PM
Jun 2017

Especially if they do not have bioaccumulation of chlorinated hydrocarbons or their degradation products as residues. Personally, I think that the fact that these compounds, outlawed since the late '70's with 40 year half lives are no longer accumulating in the fats of our farm animals. The fact that they were sources of these compounds entering the human diet was more the issue, imho.

In my biochemistry of pesticides course from the mid '70's it Seemed to me that this was perhaps the reason animal fats were being associated with negative health results.

Now that those compounds are not in use, and their degradation compounds are also degrading into non biologically active compounds, I suspect that studies will reveal that they are much safer than previously believed. If not beneficial, what with omega's from grass feeding, etc.

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