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question everything

(47,518 posts)
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 06:40 PM Jan 2018

A family member sent us a jar called

Vital Reds, promoted by a Dr. Gundry who, apparently has good credentials. (I am sure that Dr. Oz has them, too...)

Looks like a high dose of Vitamin B which, as it happens we decided to reduce taking.

We could not find anything unusual about this product even though the family member attests to the benefits.

The problem for us: this family member is on (very low) fixed income so spending $50, or so, a month, is troublesome for us. And this is what we said.

Anyone knows anything?

Or, to be blunt, would a negative opinion in public may bring troubles to this site?

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A family member sent us a jar called (Original Post) question everything Jan 2018 OP
The placebo effect is real janterry Jan 2018 #1
Thanks, we did not want to mention the placebo effect, although we thought so question everything Jan 2018 #2
What's the problem? RandomAccess Jan 2018 #3
This family member has a history of running out of money question everything Jan 2018 #6
"We don't ask, we don't know." RandomAccess Jan 2018 #8
For the others. I do know that there are corporations who scan the Internet and question everything Jan 2018 #9
FINALLY RandomAccess Jan 2018 #10
Ok, this is a fluff biography but it will give you background on the practitioner. dhol82 Jan 2018 #4
Does your family member have a medical practitioner brer cat Jan 2018 #5
We live several states away so we cannot approach anyone question everything Jan 2018 #7
 

janterry

(4,429 posts)
1. The placebo effect is real
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 07:00 PM
Jan 2018

So, idk. The research about vitamins in general is not good. But if someone really (really) believes in them, that can help.

The thing that is very worrying - is whether that $50 means that they are missing out on something else that's needed/essential. Are they? I would intervene if they were.

But as to the specific product, no I don't know a thing. Perhaps others will chime in with their wisdom.

question everything

(47,518 posts)
2. Thanks, we did not want to mention the placebo effect, although we thought so
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 07:23 PM
Jan 2018

so, instead, just suggested that there may be a Vitamin B deficiency and, in this case, cheaper products can be found.

Will see. This was today. Will wait for the next weekly talk..

It is sad that often, lower income people are an easy targets for such expensive claims.


 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
3. What's the problem?
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 07:30 PM
Jan 2018

Is s/he sending your money?

Gifting this to you and you don't think s/he should because you don't need it?

Spending money s/he doesn't have so you'll have to pick up the slack?

I don't get it. Seriously, what IS the problem you have??

As for the product itself, it's --

B VITAMINS ------------ PLUS

polyphenols from a variety of sources, which are incredibly healthful, a group of what they call "metabolism-boosting" foods which are also very, very healthy, AND both a probiotic and a prebiotic. Looks good to me. Anyone who knows something about nutrition and is trying to improve their health and possibly increase their energy would do well with this product, I'd think. I would think it especially beneficial for someone who doesn't get great nutrition from their regular diet.

And I really don't understand this question of yours at all:


Or, to be blunt, would a negative opinion in public may bring troubles to this site?

question everything

(47,518 posts)
6. This family member has a history of running out of money
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 11:01 PM
Jan 2018

We don't ask, we don't know. When the mother was alive she would ask us to help now we don't know.

Some history of mental issues that led to hospitalization several times but things apparently have gotten better.
We don't ask and, either way, we live several states away.

About the last one - I don't wish for anyone associated with the product to complain about defaming it in public. One never knows.

 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
8. "We don't ask, we don't know."
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 11:25 PM
Jan 2018

Leave it alone. As far as I can see, it's really none of your business if you're no longer asked for money.

The product is HEALTHY, despite what some of the know-nothings here would like to think. I'd take it in a minute. If she bought it and sent it to you -- send it back and tell her thanks but you're not interested.

Some of the other advice you're getting, about sharing this information with her medical people is waaaaay beyond the pale. All of you need to find a hobby.

As for this:

About the last one - I don't wish for anyone associated with the product to complain about defaming it in public. One never knows.


Bizarre gibberish in both cases. I still don't understand either point but don't bother trying to explain: I'm no longer interested.

question everything

(47,518 posts)
9. For the others. I do know that there are corporations who scan the Internet and
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 12:25 AM
Jan 2018

"Social Media" for posts about their products.

And I don't put it beyond them to determine that a certain comment is defamatory.

Just because you consider this "bizarre gibberish" does not make it go away. But, then, you may have been lucky to live in a silver cloud, isolated from the bad things that happen in this world.

 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
10. FINALLY
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 12:13 PM
Jan 2018

you were clear enough to make sense:

I do know that there are corporations who scan the Internet and
"Social Media" for posts about their products.
And I don't put it beyond them to determine that a certain comment is defamatory.


And then presumably sue or something.

That was completely unintelligible from your previous posts.

brer cat

(24,591 posts)
5. Does your family member have a medical practitioner
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 08:21 PM
Jan 2018

you could mention this to? Even if they don't have permission to talk with you about your family member, you could relay the information. High doses of vitamins may not only be wasteful, but in some cases dangerous, especially in combination with prescription drugs.

question everything

(47,518 posts)
7. We live several states away so we cannot approach anyone
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 11:04 PM
Jan 2018

and this family member is very sensitive about privacy. We don't pry nor offer advice unless asked.

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