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Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
Wed Aug 23, 2023, 01:28 AM Aug 2023

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Hugs. I have an adult disabled son. I really feel for you. onecaliberal Aug 2023 #1
Sounds highly inappropriate and possibly illegal MutantAndProud Aug 2023 #2
thank you Grasswire2 Aug 2023 #4
She made her choice MutantAndProud Aug 2023 #9
Sounds like a few violations of something(s) occurred, elleng Aug 2023 #3
thanks Ellen. nt Grasswire2 Aug 2023 #5
Something is very wrong. Get an attorney TOMORROW MORNING! hedda_foil Aug 2023 #6
Great advice. rubbersole Aug 2023 #16
can't afford an attorney Grasswire2 Aug 2023 #17
I'm so sorry to hear this. MLAA Aug 2023 #7
You know, it NEVER crossed my mind in our lives together... Grasswire2 Aug 2023 #8
Don't accept the abuse, she forfeited her career already MutantAndProud Aug 2023 #10
well, this is nuts... Grasswire2 Aug 2023 #13
Sounds like she repurposed that phrase quite deftly MutantAndProud Aug 2023 #15
Sounds like you have some leverage by letting her know that if your daughter isn't returned asap MLAA Aug 2023 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Grasswire2 Aug 2023 #14
THANK YOU for using the word "kidnapping" Grasswire2 Aug 2023 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author Grasswire2 Aug 2023 #18
Call CANHR people Aug 2023 #19
I know that mediation is less costly than going through the legal system. diva77 Aug 2023 #20
What does your lawyer say? marble falls Aug 2023 #21

onecaliberal

(32,863 posts)
1. Hugs. I have an adult disabled son. I really feel for you.
Wed Aug 23, 2023, 01:39 AM
Aug 2023

So cruel.

MutantAndProud

(742 posts)
2. Sounds highly inappropriate and possibly illegal
Wed Aug 23, 2023, 01:46 AM
Aug 2023

Also, I’m hoping you can get more than digital hugs (not that I wouldn’t offer one as well, but generally, I’ve found DU to be far far less helpful than it used to be years ago… almost like it’s a subset of its former self being run by a much more limited community)

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
4. thank you
Wed Aug 23, 2023, 02:00 AM
Aug 2023

I was kinda hoping that someone here might work in that kind of environment and provide some insight before I start taking some action.

Adult protective services will allow me to file a complaint against older daughter, if I really want to go there. It would destroy her career. I don't want to damage her. I just want my disabled daughter to be happy, safe, and IN CONTACT with me.

MutantAndProud

(742 posts)
9. She made her choice
Wed Aug 23, 2023, 02:07 AM
Aug 2023

My sister has tried something like that recently, I think my whole family has been in on it and keeping a lid on the fact that they’ve been profiting off of a conservatorship

elleng

(130,972 posts)
3. Sounds like a few violations of something(s) occurred,
Wed Aug 23, 2023, 01:57 AM
Aug 2023

none of which should be shared.

SO SORRY.

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
5. thanks Ellen. nt
Wed Aug 23, 2023, 02:00 AM
Aug 2023

hedda_foil

(16,375 posts)
6. Something is very wrong. Get an attorney TOMORROW MORNING!
Wed Aug 23, 2023, 02:01 AM
Aug 2023

I hate to even think it but your daughter may somehow have managed to have you declared incompetent, when you are very obviously anything but. All these discussions should have been with you, not your kids alone. Please find a good attorney right away to advise you, GW.

rubbersole

(6,698 posts)
16. Great advice.
Wed Aug 23, 2023, 02:27 AM
Aug 2023

If you can afford a reputable elderly law attorney please don't hesitate. It might take weeks to get an appointment. Bless you and good luck.

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
17. can't afford an attorney
Wed Aug 23, 2023, 02:27 AM
Aug 2023

But I do have a plan. I am not powerless. I don't want to go into too much detail, but my neighbor, a very good person, is an attorney and also the mayor of the city. She is not officially advising me, that would be wrong. But we are talking. And she knows us as neighbors and is fond of my dd daughter.

I appreciate the validation of DU people here.

Being quiet and letting this go would be morally wrong.

MLAA

(17,298 posts)
7. I'm so sorry to hear this.
Wed Aug 23, 2023, 02:02 AM
Aug 2023

Are you your disabled daughter’s legal guardian? If you can manage it, it sounds like it is time to hire a lawyer even if just for reliable advice on next steps for you. 💗💕

Another thought: If you have any way of getting in touch with the daughter that took your disabled daughter away I’d pass the word that you are changing your will until your disabled daughter is returned. Then your decision if you ever change it back if your daughter is returned. Sorry if this thought is too extreme for you. But sounds like your kidnapping daughter is motivated by $$ since she wants her sister for free housekeeping etc.

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
8. You know, it NEVER crossed my mind in our lives together...
Wed Aug 23, 2023, 02:06 AM
Aug 2023

...to become her legal guardian.

Yeah, I'm thinking that now. But who would ever have thought that my older daughter would lose her stability in terms of mental health and do any such thing? She is an ordained minister. She is also an authoritarian, and there is a pattern of this kind of cutting people out and emotional abuse. Very sad to see this.

As you can see, if I were to file a complaint against her action with Protective Services, it could destroy her career.

MutantAndProud

(742 posts)
10. Don't accept the abuse, she forfeited her career already
Wed Aug 23, 2023, 02:08 AM
Aug 2023

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
13. well, this is nuts...
Wed Aug 23, 2023, 02:17 AM
Aug 2023

She was just celebrated by her denomination for publishing of a sermon on resisting the coming fascism in America. Just at the same time!

Her theme in the sermon, about our resistance to fascism: "The cruelty is the point."

Unreal. When I told a few friends about what had happened, they were shocked -- said it was just breath-takingly cruel. Absolutely cruel.

I've shed a million tears. Not just because I miss my dd daughter and worry about her, but also because the older daughter's treatment of us has revealed someone I feel I don't know, and who I should fear.

MutantAndProud

(742 posts)
15. Sounds like she repurposed that phrase quite deftly
Wed Aug 23, 2023, 02:20 AM
Aug 2023

That’s corruption plain and simple

MLAA

(17,298 posts)
11. Sounds like you have some leverage by letting her know that if your daughter isn't returned asap
Wed Aug 23, 2023, 02:11 AM
Aug 2023

you will be calling her employer. I think it’s time to worry more about your disabled daughter being misused than you other daughter’s career.

💕💗💕💗

Response to MLAA (Reply #11)

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
12. THANK YOU for using the word "kidnapping"
Wed Aug 23, 2023, 02:12 AM
Aug 2023

That's de facto what it was.

As I was coming home from the facility, the two daughters were here in the apartment, ransacking the bedroom for stuff they wanted. Oddly, they left all her best clothes, winter coats, Calvin Klein shoes, etc., and took my piano keyboard and other odd things. Very peculiar, as if the older daughter just sort of lost her senses. They left a mess. I took pictures.

I do not have contact with the older daughter either. Everything shut down in terms of communication.

I sent the dd daughter a box of good chocolates for her birthday a month later. It was refused delivery. Crazy.

Response to Grasswire2 (Original post)

people

(625 posts)
19. Call CANHR
Wed Aug 23, 2023, 03:00 AM
Aug 2023

I do not know what state you are in but in CA there is a non-profit call California Advocates for Nursing Home Reform. They have a lawyer referral service at this phone no.: 415-974-5171. They may be able to connect you with a similar service in your state. Good luck. This all sounds very bad.

diva77

(7,643 posts)
20. I know that mediation is less costly than going through the legal system.
Wed Aug 23, 2023, 04:16 AM
Aug 2023

I have never used it, so I am not recommending it . Maybe someone else can weigh in on this approach to finding a solution.

https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/mediation-six-stages-30252.html

So very sorry about your situation. Sending good vibes your way.



marble falls

(57,102 posts)
21. What does your lawyer say?
Wed Aug 23, 2023, 07:42 AM
Aug 2023
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