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HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 08:44 PM Jun 2012

Best retort (against a ridiculous quack treatment) ever?

http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2012/06/12/best-retort-ever/

"I have to hand it to Autismum. Remember the Open Letter to Kerri Rivera she wrote, the one criticizing her for using bleach (Miracle Mineral Solution, often referred to as MMS) to try to “cure” autism? I referred to it yesterday when I pointed out how the pro-MMS apologists were striking back at their critics. Well, it turns out that pro-MMS apologists have also swarmed like flying monkeys into the comments of Autismum’s open letter. Autismum, however, seems quite capable of handling them. I’ll show you what I mean. Here’s a comment from someone named Autumn. It’s basically a testimonial:

"My son is doing great on MMS after just two weeks. We run a Son-Rise Program, where we embrace our child’s autism and challenges and find ways to connect through play. My son Liam has made great strides in this program the past year and a half, but there is a noticeable difference in his attention span ability the last week. He is watching my mouth form words now, not bouncing off the walls as much as he had been before. He has had yeast issues, many food sensitivities and we are on strict diets. Yet he would have stomach aches and gas pains are almost daily. These have disappeared with using MMS (small dosage, working up each day to a max dose of only 9 activated drops throughout 12 hrs). He has had absolutely NO negative side effects. He is hugging me, chasing his sister around more. I researched MMS thoroughly, all the arguments against also, before I began because I would never want to harm my child to overcome autism (hence, why we chose a very child-directed approach for therapy also in the first place). I don’t plan on subjecting him to an enema unless he understood and allowed me to because he is only three and I want to keep his trust. I will follow the other protocols and Kerri Rivera has been nothing but helpful to me in my search to help restore my child’s health. I totally believe autism is an immune-disorder and until we have an open mind to consider immune-therapies like MMS offers, we won’t know what can help these children. 1 in 88! Come on, we have to take this epidemic serious and listen to the innovations that rise from intelligent, caring people. Please do more research before you discredit something. IT IS WORKING, THE CHILDREN ARE GETTING BETTER. That evidence will not go away."

To which Autismum replied:

Your son sounds adorable. Please stop feeding him bleach.


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Best retort (against a ridiculous quack treatment) ever? (Original Post) HuckleB Jun 2012 OP
MMS is similar in its molecular structure, but truedelphi Jun 2012 #1
Chlorine dioxide is an industrial bleach. laconicsax Jun 2012 #2
Umm. Nope. HuckleB Jun 2012 #3
Psst. HuckleB Jun 2012 #4

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
1. MMS is similar in its molecular structure, but
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 09:43 PM
Jun 2012

Not identical to bleach.

http://healthfreedoms.org/2009/03/28/mms-de-mystified/

The MMS product and protocol was developed by Jim Humble, a gold miner and metallurgist, on an expedition into the jungles of Central America, looking for gold. It was a response to a need to help a member of his expedition who came down with malaria, more than two days away, through heavy jungle, from the next mine. After many years of experience, Humble always carried stabilized oxygen, which is really sodium chlorite (NaClO3), with him on such expeditions, to make local water potable. Facing the possibility of a quick loss of life, he gave it to the stricken man. To everyone’s amazement, he was well within a few hours. That sure seemed like a miracle, but Humble wanted to better understand what had just happened.

Over the course of several years, Jim Humble figured out that what made stabilized oxygen so effective in some malaria cases, was not the oxygen at all, but the trace amounts of chlorine dioxide. Further research led him to come up with a way to produce hundreds, if not thousands more units of chlorine dioxide than what is found in stabilized oxygen. This is through using a higher concentrate of sodium chlorite (28% — 22.4% effective sodium chlorite vs. 3% for stabilized oxygen), in conjunction with the activator. The proof of the efficacy of this simple protocol was in successfully helping over 75,000 people in several African nations – including Uganda and Malawi

 

laconicsax

(14,860 posts)
2. Chlorine dioxide is an industrial bleach.
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 10:14 PM
Jun 2012
http://miraclemineral.org/important-info/
When following the instructions below, keep this paragraph in mind. Always activate the MMS drops with one of the food acids, either lemon juice drops, or lime juice drops, or citric acid solution drops (to make citric acid solution add 1 level tablespoon of citric acid and 9 tablespoons of water. Store it in a bottle with a lid.) Always use 5 drops of one of these food acids to each one drop of MMS, mix in a empty dry glass and wait at least 3 minutes, then add 1/3 to 2/3 glass of water or juice and drink. (You can expand the 3 minutes out to 10 minutes, and after adding the juice or water you can wait up to an hour before drinking.)

Mixing the sodium chlorite with citric acid produces chlorine dioxide, which is an industrial bleach.
Note: If you notice diarrhea, or even vomiting that is not a bad sign. The body is simply throwing off poisons and cleaning itself out. Everyone says that they feel much better after the diarrhea. You do not have to take any medicine for the diarrhea. It will go away as fast as it came. It will not last. It is not real diarrhea as the body is just cleaning out, and it is not caused by bacteria or virus. When the poison is gone, the diarrhea is gone.

Yes--Chlorine dioxide is poisonous and you've just ingested some. Surely, the MMS people realize that you should maybe stop drinking bleach if you're getting really sick...
Do not quit taking the MMS.

Oh...

Some relevant information:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorine_dioxide
http://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/ConsumerUpdates/ucm228052.htm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2010/sep/15/miracle-mineral-solutions-mms-bleach

HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
3. Umm. Nope.
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 11:50 PM
Jun 2012

You're really going to defend this disgusting quackery?

Seriously?







Oh, and "Health Freedom" is just ugly, sick propaganda aimed by the powerful at the weak, so that the powerful will convince the weak to give them more money for nothing.

Stop supporting scumbags! Please!

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