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Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,771 posts)
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 09:14 PM Oct 2022

Cancer, Cancer, and More Cancer & Other Traumatic Events

Last edited Fri Oct 21, 2022, 09:49 PM - Edit history (1)

Some of you may recall my posting a couple of years ago about my father and then last year my husband having cancer. I appreciated the support I received from DUers.

I haven't been on DU much since then, and when I was I pretty much stayed away from this group. So, maybe I have no business asking anyone here to care about my story. And I don't know how to make a long story short. Still, I want to share it. So here goes...

I don't have cancer myself. At least that I know of. But cancer has deeply affected my life. Here's a timeline, including the other more-or-less traumatic events, as well as the cancer involved.

2019 Fall--Setting the Scene: On a trip to Ireland for my brother's son's wedding, my brother verbally abused my parents, and, especially my husband and me. He also physically attacked my husband. This wasn't the first of my brother's out-of-control, abusive incidents. I chose to stay away from him, which caused much criticism of me and division in the family.

2020
COVID-19 disrupts all our lives in many ways both great and small, including disagreement among family members about COVID precautions.

Fall through Winter

My father is diagnosed with pancreatic cancer and dies on Oct. 25, after 67 days of home-based hospice

My husband's closest brother is diagnosed with acute lymphoblastic leukemia

My mother's only sister dies unexpectedly from no-one-seems-to-know-exactly-what but most likely Alzheimer's

December 26th: My brother--yes, that brother: my parents' only son and my mother's favorite child, no matter what she says-- suffers a fatal fall from a scissors lift, witnessed by his two your-adult sons.
-His widow bans me from his funeral causing more family divisions

2021
April

My dear, sweet husband is diagnosed with Gleason 9 prostate cancer
for which he was treated with:
-a prostatectomy, which turned out to have been far less successful than we first understood
(meanwhile, the cancer was found to have spread to his pubic bone)
-radiation therapy, which apparently no one knows how successful it was
-Androgen Deprivation Therapy (ADT), which has many serious potential side-effects

2022
Winter

My husband continues on ADT, despite side effects causing some definitely bothersome & some potentially serious issues
My dentist extracted a back molar which I don't actually believe needed extraction and which has disrupted my speech and oral comfort
Spring
The wife of another of my husband's brothers was diagnosed with bladder cancer

One of my mother's two remaining brothers dies of no-one-seems-to-know-exactly-what

Late Summer to Fall
After emerging from a not-uncommon-for-me episode of deep depression, I had a burst of energy and positivity. My husband and I joyfully worked together on various labor-intensive chores in our yard and gardens. We were sure we'd accomplish all of our main goals and move on to conquer the years-long-accumlated clutter inside our house by late fall.

BOOM! Suddenly, my back got touchy, as it has so often before. This time, however, it decided no amount of ice, stretching, or chiropractic treatment was going to resolve it. In fact, it's caused severe pain and I've developed a related malady I'd never hear of--foot drop. My fantastic PCP set up & urged me to go to a STAT appointment with a neurosurgeon who ordered a STAT MRI. After which, the STAT just disappeared. I had to wait 4 days to see him for follow-up. The thing about foot-drop is that the longer you have it, the less likely it will be cured. It's been two months now.

The neurosurgeon somewhat cavalierly suggested TLIF surgery, involving lots of hardware, spine immobilization, and a long recovery period. I'd prefer a surgery that simply decompresses the L-5 Nerve root, and skips the fusion, but that seems not to be an option.

Meanwhile, my somewhat-still-estranged youngest sister sends me a CT scan ordered due to unremitting stomach pains. I reluctantly give her my amateur analysis: widespread, aggressive metastatic cancer originating in her uterus or ovaries. The most jarring item in the radiologist's report: Peritoneal Carcinomatosis. Several seemingly legitimate sites call this a death sentence. Prognosis: 4 to 12 months.

Fortunately she lives on Long Island and was quickly admitted to a Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center. She was diagnosed with Stage IV Uterine Cancer that appears to have metastasized to her liver, lymph nodes, lungs, etc. She's had had her second round of chemo which was supposed to shrink enough of her tumors to ready her for complete hysterectomy and removal of just about everything in her abdominal cavity. Turns out more chemo is deemed necessary first.


As for my lesser, yet still very disturbing problem, a second-opinion surgeon spends far more time analyzing my case an recommends what he says is a far superior option: TDR (Total Disk Replacement), which he says Medicare will definitely cover it. No fusion! I rejoice!

Two days after a promised call to set up the surgery doesn't come, despite our repeated attempts to contact the PA in charge of this, we finally getting a return call saying, Oooops, Medicare won't cover disk replacement for people over 60. The doctor will do an ALIF, with single-level fusion.

Surgery has since been twice scheduled & canceled, blamed on OR fuck-ups beyond anyone's control. I spend today awaiting a promised 9am phone call with a new surgery date that never came, despite my calling twice.

I'm supposed to call my grieving 84-yo mother, but can't seem to bring myself to burden her again with my fear, frustration, and fury. Not to mention my tears. Nor can I imagine calling and keeping that crap to myself.

Believe it or not, there are countless relevant details I've omitted. And what the hell anyone is supposed to say in response to all of that, I have no clue. But if anyone has made it this far, thanks for hanging in there.
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Cancer, Cancer, and More Cancer & Other Traumatic Events (Original Post) Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2022 OP
I sometimes think human beings are asked to endure more than they are capable of Walleye Oct 2022 #1
You will get no argument from me on that! Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2022 #2
Holy moly, dear Dark n Stormy. MLAA Oct 2022 #3
I will! But he's not quite home yet. He's still at the gig I couldn't play Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2022 #8
Are you both musicians? MLAA Oct 2022 #13
We are! Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2022 #20
Best of luck! MLAA Oct 2022 #21
Thanks! I actually was able to play most of the last set last night. Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2022 #22
I'm So Very Sorry, Dark n Stormy! 🤷‍♂️💕 Cha Oct 2022 #4
I will keep trying. I never knew things could get this hard. Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2022 #9
As Bob Marley said and Cha Oct 2022 #14
Wow. That's deep. Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2022 #23
Wishing you the best vibes. AnotherDreamWeaver Oct 2022 #5
I frequently count among my blessings the fact that my husband Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2022 #10
Healing vibes on the way go you & yours, Dark. 💓💓💓 SheltieLover Oct 2022 #6
Hi Sheltie! Nice to hear from you. Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2022 #11
Hi Dark! SheltieLover Oct 2022 #16
Thanks again for the caring words & suggestions. Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2022 #17
Sending loads of healing vibes your way 💓💓💓 SheltieLover Oct 2022 #18
That is one hell of a list, Dark&Stormy. Good Grief. 3catwoman3 Oct 2022 #7
Thanks very much for the empathy! I often think maybe I'll wake up Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2022 #12
Good grief, and I think I have troubles! murielm99 Oct 2022 #15
I appreciate that. 💜 Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2022 #19

Walleye

(31,032 posts)
1. I sometimes think human beings are asked to endure more than they are capable of
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 09:31 PM
Oct 2022

And to have your own surgery on top of all of that. Stay as strong as you can. Positive vibes

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,771 posts)
2. You will get no argument from me on that!
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 09:41 PM
Oct 2022

My psychiatrist retired last year and my new insurance doesn't cover my long-time psychologist. I've yet to find new ones. COVID caused my yoga studio to close and I never managed to get myself to practice at home. I know I have to pull myself out of this spiral. But sometimes it just doesn't seem impossible.

Still, even though I've been very dangerously deep into depression before, I'm not quite there at this point. So maybe there's hope.

Thanks for the positive vibes and virtual hug. Truly.


MLAA

(17,310 posts)
3. Holy moly, dear Dark n Stormy.
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 09:57 PM
Oct 2022

What a few years you have had. I am sending you the very best vibes and energy I can muster! I literally cannot imagine the stress and losses you have endured. Grab husband’s hand and hold on to each other 💖💖💖💖💖.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,771 posts)
8. I will! But he's not quite home yet. He's still at the gig I couldn't play
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 11:33 PM
Oct 2022

because of my back problems and foot drop. I was able to, just barely, handle it last night. He had to hire someone to fill in for me tonight. I hope to be up to it again tomorrow night, the last night of the three-night-long gig.

So strange that to look at him you would have not idea he has cancer.

Many thanks for your kind words.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,771 posts)
20. We are!
Sat Oct 22, 2022, 05:20 PM
Oct 2022

Might be getting a ride to the gig soon in time to play the last set. Hoping the pain meds kick in in time.

Wish me luck!

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,771 posts)
22. Thanks! I actually was able to play most of the last set last night.
Sun Oct 23, 2022, 07:10 PM
Oct 2022

I was planning to stay home and rest (read "mope" ). But my husband texted me in the late afternoon and encouraged me to come out and play.

We had to get a friend to drive me because in all the recent commotion over my surgeries getting cancelled, his appointments for tests regarding unintended weight loss, which may or may not be related to his prostate cancer, etc., I forgot to renew my driver's license!

My husband calls me the dancing bass player. I don't mean to do it, but my body just moves a lot when I play. I've tried to stop it, but it makes me screw up my playing. So I just go with the flow. Because of the leg and ankle weakness caused by my herniated disk, I had to be very careful last night to control my involuntary movements to keep from falling down.

I'm so glad I did it!

We play what's known as Americana or Roots music. We've played in cajun bands, bluegrass, old time, blues, folk-rock, etc. My husband is a multi-instrumentalist and a natural-born musician. He's my favorite one!

See my post about the article on him in the most recent copy of a local magazine: https://www.democraticunderground.com/11466766



Cha

(297,446 posts)
4. I'm So Very Sorry, Dark n Stormy! 🤷‍♂️💕
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 10:04 PM
Oct 2022

You have to be so Strong to Brave all your Challenges for your Family!

And, You are!💙💙💙

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,771 posts)
9. I will keep trying. I never knew things could get this hard.
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 11:37 PM
Oct 2022

Actually, I do know that others have faced worse challenges than I have. And I have many advantages many others don't. Still, it doesn't help a lot to know that when you're feeling you can't manage to handle your own challenges.

Thanks for the kind words. Thanks for the lovely card!


Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,771 posts)
23. Wow. That's deep.
Sun Oct 23, 2022, 07:32 PM
Oct 2022

Good ole Bob Marley!

From what I can tell, he was a chauvinist, if not a misogynist, but I do love his music!

AnotherDreamWeaver

(2,852 posts)
5. Wishing you the best vibes.
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 10:15 PM
Oct 2022

My sympathy.

I once read 'laughter is the best medicine.' May you find it in your heart, and it lift these troubles.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,771 posts)
10. I frequently count among my blessings the fact that my husband
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 11:40 PM
Oct 2022

is just about the funniest person I've ever known!

Not sure it's medicine, but it certainly is a salve!

Thanks for your kind words.


SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
6. Healing vibes on the way go you & yours, Dark. 💓💓💓
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 10:35 PM
Oct 2022

Good grief, you've had a lot of issues & loss. 💔

Yale is offering their verh popular Science of Well Being course free:

https://www.coursera.org/learn/the-science-of-well-being?utm_source=gg&utm_medium=sem&utm_campaign=09-ScienceofWellBeing-US&utm_content=B2C&campaignid=9728548210&adgroupid=102459401907&device=m&keyword=yale%20happiness%20course&matchtype=b&network=g&devicemodel=&adpostion=&creativeid=428300743411&hide_mobile_promo&gclid=Cj0KCQjwhsmaBhCvARIsAIbEbH7oNhqOpyL5M84viSygiqcL3v7R-Bt6TUczWQzMxIJrgcn8zLqPt0YaAsnCEALw_wcB

Those who have tried it said they felt better after watching the 1st video, which is availabld immediately after signing up.

I have foot drop ongoing as well but, fortunately it is getting better on its own.

Have you tried physical therapy?

Hugs to you!

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,771 posts)
11. Hi Sheltie! Nice to hear from you.
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 11:52 PM
Oct 2022

I actually did take your advice and took that course once a few years ago. I don't believe I got the relief some others have, but maybe I'll try it again. If I can squeeze it in. I am so overwhelmed with still sorting through the bills from my husband's cancer treatments. I finally finished our 2021 taxes two nights ago because I was trying to itemize our medical expenses. I know they would put our deductions higher than the standard deductions, but I just can't document them all because neither Medicare nor his supplement give a spreadsheet. You have to wade through every single EOB.

I'd applied for an extension in April, electronically, and it got to the IRS 3 minutes late so they denied me the extension. Fortunately, at this point, we're getting a refund. But not as much as I believe we deserve. I'm not sure I can bear to go back in and try to find all of our medical expenses so I can amend.

Sitting at my computer is really painful with this back flare-up...

I'm sorry to hear you're dealing with foot drop! I'm glad it's getting better!

I haven't tried formal physical therapy, but I've been doing the recommended exercises at home. My surgeon claims he expects my diversification to return right after surgery, but other sources say the nerve root has been compressed too long. It's been just about 8 weeks!

Anyway, thanks for the kind words!



SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
16. Hi Dark!
Sat Oct 22, 2022, 05:40 AM
Oct 2022

Nice to see you posting again!

So sorry to hear you are in such pain. 😢

I sure hope your doc can fix it.

Give the coirse another try. Maybe you will find resonance this time.

Glad you are getting a refund.

I sure hope things go more smoothly for you from now on.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,771 posts)
17. Thanks again for the caring words & suggestions.
Sat Oct 22, 2022, 05:09 PM
Oct 2022

I'm just so overwhelmed, its hard to know from day to day, or hour to hour, how high or low my mood, energy, etc., will be like.

I will keep you posted.

3catwoman3

(24,023 posts)
7. That is one hell of a list, Dark&Stormy. Good Grief.
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 10:42 PM
Oct 2022

Have you tried acupuncture or cannabis? Maybe hypnosis?

There are codes for acupuncture treatments that are accepted by some insurance plans.

Wishing you continued strength and endurance.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,771 posts)
12. Thanks very much for the empathy! I often think maybe I'll wake up
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 11:58 PM
Oct 2022

and find this has been a terrible nightmare.

I have been telling my husband I need to find an acupuncturist who accepts Medicare and knows how to code it correctly. I'm pretty sure my condition qualifies as long as the code is right. Even if it doesn't work for anything else, I actually love the feeling of the needles in me. It's very relaxing!

Cannabis does pretty much the opposite of what it does for many of my family and friends. It amplifies every pain in my body and makes me think of terrible things. Bummer, because friends are always giving my husband gummies. They work for him, so I'm glad he has them all to himself.

Thanks again.




I wish we had heart smilies on DU. I'm on my PC keyboard with no emojis, but I send hearts to you and everyone who's taken the time to reply to my tale of woe.

murielm99

(30,753 posts)
15. Good grief, and I think I have troubles!
Sat Oct 22, 2022, 12:57 AM
Oct 2022

I am glad you can let us know all of this. Please keep telling us about the details. At least you can get some of that out of your system. We do care here.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,771 posts)
19. I appreciate that. 💜
Sat Oct 22, 2022, 05:17 PM
Oct 2022

I did manage to get some sleep fro 8:30am to 1:30pm today. Woke & spoke to my mom & then texted with a friend. Am just now (5:15 pm Eastern Time) trying to get up and do something. We shall see how that goes.

Thanks again for the reply! 🌞


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