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Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 01:02 PM Feb 2013

I'm enjoying my new smoker

I have been wanting a decent smoker for a while so I finally broke down and bought a SmokinTex smoker. There are a few manufacturers that make smokers similar to these. They basically work on a small volume of smoke since the smoker is mostly sealed and only has a small vent at the top. You only need a 1/4 to 1/2 cup of chips or a small block of wood or two to smoke most anything. Unlike some other types of smokers they are very simple to use, yet it produces great results. I also bought the cold smoking plate and I find I'm doing more cold smoking than anything.

So far I've smoked two pounds each of pistachios and almonds, several different types of cheeses, baby back ribs, steaks, salmon, and beef jerky. So far everything has turned out great with the exception of the salmon. Salmon is pretty tricky to bake since when salted you get a lot of fat bubbles that come out. Although it tasted great, it didn't look very appetizing. I smoked it at a very low temp to try and avoid this, but it didn't help. I think next time I will cold smoke the salmon and just grill it or I will give it a really long cure and make lox, then smoke it, or I may try only seasoning the under side.

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I'm enjoying my new smoker (Original Post) Major Nikon Feb 2013 OP
DH loves his homemade smoker. mopinko Feb 2013 #1
I. Love. Smoked food. theKed Feb 2013 #2
The one I have is pretty small Major Nikon Feb 2013 #3
I've done some really great salmon in my Weber MrMickeysMom Feb 2013 #4
This is how I've been doing nuts Major Nikon Feb 2013 #5
Interesting. A HERETIC I AM Feb 2013 #6
I think I will try a 5% brine Major Nikon Feb 2013 #7
Here's my dry cure for salmon ... MrMickeysMom Feb 2013 #8
Thanks for that Major Nikon Feb 2013 #9

mopinko

(70,121 posts)
1. DH loves his homemade smoker.
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 01:21 PM
Feb 2013

basically a couple huge flower pots and some racks. has many many delicious meals, the best probably a pork shoulder for pulled pork. briskets are fabulous, too.
the big bonus as far as certain family members are concerned is smoker cow's feet and femurs. they keep a long time that way. nom nom.

theKed

(1,235 posts)
2. I. Love. Smoked food.
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 02:46 AM
Feb 2013

So good. Nothing like freshly-smoked homemade bacon.
Since I move around a lot I haven't ever invested in one of my own, but I've done enough of it through work to really learn to appreciate it. Maybe his will be the summer I change that.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
3. The one I have is pretty small
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 08:21 AM
Feb 2013

It's about the size of a microwave oven that's not as wide, but taller.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
4. I've done some really great salmon in my Weber
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 12:50 AM
Feb 2013

I did a dry cure for less than 24 hours, rinsed really well, and smoked it in the past. Then, I've done a whole salmon other ways.

The nuts sounds really good. I've never done this or cheese, cause I've always hot smoked or done things like my Thanksgiving turkey.

Any suggestions for pistachios? I do love them.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
5. This is how I've been doing nuts
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 08:58 AM
Feb 2013

With my smoker you can't cold smoke for extended periods. It has a cold smoking plate which blocks the heat from the heating element, but this only works for short periods. So basically you leave the smoker on for 15-20 minutes and then you turn it off and leave the door closed for another 45 minutes or so.

After smoking you need to wrap whatever you've smoked in plastic wrap, ziplock bag, vacuum pack or whatever for a day or two at least so the smoke flavor has a chance to penetrate more deeply. This is especially important for pistachios which tend to collect the smoke more just on the shells.

I think if I did some type of cure on the salmon at least overnight if not longer, I would be much better off.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,370 posts)
6. Interesting.
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 09:17 AM
Feb 2013

I've never used one so you have my respect.

I'm curious if you think perhaps brining the salmon for a bit might help.

I know nothing of this method.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
7. I think I will try a 5% brine
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 09:44 AM
Feb 2013

I basically have two problems. One is that white globs of fat cell liquids are leaching to the surface during cooking. I suspect this is due to my method of seasoning right before smoking and the low cooking temperatures which allow this to happen without enough heat to coagulate the proteins contained in the liquid before it leaches to the surface. Salt on the surface just before cooking is going to have the effect of drawing these liquids to the surface more easily. The other problem I have is the salmon turned out a bit mushy for my tastes. I'm pretty sure the reason for this is because certain protein digesting enzymes become very active during the cooking process. The temperature is not high enough to destroy those enzymes and the long cooking time gives them plenty of time to work.

Hopefully brining will solve both of those problems. If not, there's quite a few other things I can try. I can try cold smoking or short duration hot smoking and finishing in a hot oven or broiler. Smoking at higher temps might work also (I was smoking the salmon at 160F).

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
8. Here's my dry cure for salmon ...
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 12:19 PM
Feb 2013

This is supposed to be enough for ~10 lbs of fish.

1 C pickling salt
1 C packed brown sugar
3/4 tsp pepper
1/2 tsp ground allspice
1/2 tsp ginger
1/2 tsp crumbled bay leaf
2 garlic cloves, pressed

Combine the ingredients, and rub well into fish. Place in a non-metal container for several hours or overnight, depending on the size and amount of fish. Rinse fish well in cold water, rubbing slightly to release excess salt (I didn't do this as well as I should have the first time, and it was too salty). Pat dry, then allow to air-dry for several hours until fish acquires a glaze.

Smoke!

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
9. Thanks for that
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 12:34 PM
Feb 2013

Right now I have just one dry cure that I use for all fish, but it centers around some very good smoked paprika. For smoking I'm going to have to figure something else out, so this gives me something to work with. This one looks like it centers around allspice and ginger, which are both great with fish. For pickling salt I just run Kosher salt through my Blendtec for a few seconds and voila, pickling salt.

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