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Aerows

(39,961 posts)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 10:40 PM Jul 2013

Tomatoes - to put in the refrigerator or not to put them in the refrigerator

My Aunt gave me seven fresh tomatoes off the vine from her garden, and admonished me to not put them in the fridge because they would lose flavor.

Considering that any tomato you buy in the store has already been refrigerated, it seems kind of moot to follow that advice. Unless it isn't. Do they taste better when you cook with them when they have become unchilled, or is that just nonsense?

I know the ones from the garden tasted *excellent* tonight on my baked burritos. I was just wondering what everyone else thought on the topic.

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Tomatoes - to put in the refrigerator or not to put them in the refrigerator (Original Post) Aerows Jul 2013 OP
Store tomatoes are not vine tomatoes. NYC_SKP Jul 2013 #1
I'm learning that vine tomatoes Aerows Jul 2013 #50
Real tomatoes are just like *****. NYC_SKP Jul 2013 #51
No, don't BainsBane Jul 2013 #2
They aren't? Aerows Jul 2013 #6
They are probably shipped in cool trucks BainsBane Jul 2013 #8
they are picked green or at "break" stage (meaning a faint hint of pink) - and gassed with ethylene NRaleighLiberal Jul 2013 #10
Given your sig line BainsBane Jul 2013 #11
Doesn't that first tomato Aerows Jul 2013 #13
I have my eye on the fourth. BainsBane Jul 2013 #20
They all look good, don't they? Aerows Jul 2013 #22
My tomato book will be published on Dec 2014! NRaleighLiberal Jul 2013 #14
Too cool BainsBane Jul 2013 #17
thanks! I am actually the Adviser for Tomatoes to the Seed Savers Exchange! NRaleighLiberal Jul 2013 #21
Wow, very impressive BainsBane Jul 2013 #23
We have a nursery here, small mom and pop, that deals with tons of varieties of tomatoes and peppers mtnester Jul 2013 #30
I'll be a customer :) Aerows Jul 2013 #18
Banana better source of ethylene. /nt TheMadMonk Jul 2013 #26
Is that how they use the ethylene glycol to ripen them? Aerows Jul 2013 #47
Yes, but because the fruit is not attached to vine, it's not getting that last "sugar rush"... TheMadMonk Jul 2013 #54
You just threw out a term Aerows Jul 2013 #55
Let's just say getting caught scrumping may involve high velocity rock salt. :D /nt TheMadMonk Jul 2013 #56
Err, chemistry geekery here Sentath Jul 2013 #57
Absolutely not unless you are using them for decorations. eom Purveyor Jul 2013 #3
Unless the health department is coming by to check, TexasTowelie Jul 2013 #4
Thanks for the response. Aerows Jul 2013 #48
tomatoes in the fridge - never! because.... NRaleighLiberal Jul 2013 #5
Thank you for the science behind it Aerows Jul 2013 #49
They will never taste the same after being in the fridge. Arkansas Granny Jul 2013 #7
I've finally gotten that drilled into my thick head Aerows Jul 2013 #46
Well ya'll answered my question to a T Aerows Jul 2013 #9
Or the opposite - if you learn to love that flavor when young, it is a shock to taste NRaleighLiberal Jul 2013 #12
The best thing I ever went to Aerows Jul 2013 #16
Wait until the mix I send you some day soon! NRaleighLiberal Jul 2013 #19
I'm salivating thinking about it! Aerows Jul 2013 #25
Fresh tomatoes from a garden always taste better than storebought. We never used to put applegrove Jul 2013 #15
That's why I love this group Aerows Jul 2013 #24
If you find yourself with too many tomatoes freeze them. TheMadMonk Jul 2013 #27
Oh that's a great idea :) Aerows Jul 2013 #33
Wait a second Aerows Jul 2013 #45
Why bother. bag for convenience if you like, but the skin's coming off anyway. TheMadMonk Jul 2013 #52
Thanks for that explanation :D Aerows Jul 2013 #53
Dad said, NEVER put tomatoes in fridge, so I don't, elleng Jul 2013 #28
NEVER in the fridge. Lugnut Jul 2013 #29
Tomatoes get mealy in the fridge if left there more than overnight Politicub Jul 2013 #31
There should be Aerows Jul 2013 #40
definitely, in my experience with growing, and enjoying other's abundance of tomatoes.... northoftheborder Jul 2013 #32
I have mine in a single layer Aerows Jul 2013 #41
You have the answer to your question, but I wanted to share a story. CrispyQ Jul 2013 #34
That's awesome :) Aerows Jul 2013 #35
I don't buy tomatoes in the store wryter2000 Jul 2013 #36
They certainly are Aerows Jul 2013 #39
By the way Aerows Jul 2013 #42
I love potlucks! CrispyQ Jul 2013 #43
I love potlucks too! Aerows Jul 2013 #44
NEVER! However.... The empressof all Jul 2013 #37
Ooo! Good information :) Aerows Jul 2013 #38
Not libodem Jul 2013 #58
Put them on the window sill, stem side down. bif Jul 2013 #59
 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
1. Store tomatoes are not vine tomatoes.
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 10:43 PM
Jul 2013

Stores refrigerate to allow for transportation times, etc., but they sit unchilled in the produce section.

I think they'd be OK in the produce drawer of the fridge but I think they'll taste better left out.

That's been my experience with homegrowns. Chilling changes the flavor and the texture.

BainsBane

(53,035 posts)
2. No, don't
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 10:44 PM
Jul 2013

Tomatoes get an icky texture in the fridge. Store tomatoes aren't typically refrigerated either.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
6. They aren't?
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 10:46 PM
Jul 2013

But they are sitting in the produce section, and most of them are ripened by artificial means (CO2).

BainsBane

(53,035 posts)
8. They are probably shipped in cool trucks
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 10:49 PM
Jul 2013

but they aren't in the refrigerated area of the produce section. Look next time you're there.

Garden tomatoes are a blessing. You'll probably eat them in short order. I wish I had one. I just paid 4.59 lb for an heirloom tomato.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,015 posts)
10. they are picked green or at "break" stage (meaning a faint hint of pink) - and gassed with ethylene
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 10:51 PM
Jul 2013

...which is the ripening enzyme for tomatoes. Ethylene is given off by ripening fruit - if you pick tomatoes green and put them in a brown paper bag with a ripe apple, it helps the tomatoes to ripen (to an adequate but not perfect, stage - tomatoes picked green and ripened on the shelf will never develop the complex flavors of near vine ripened ones).

NRaleighLiberal

(60,015 posts)
14. My tomato book will be published on Dec 2014!
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 10:54 PM
Jul 2013

Just finished the first draft of the text and sent it in to Storey!

NRaleighLiberal

(60,015 posts)
21. thanks! I am actually the Adviser for Tomatoes to the Seed Savers Exchange!
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 10:57 PM
Jul 2013

My collection of varieties is well over 3000...been collecting them since the mid 1980s

mtnester

(8,885 posts)
30. We have a nursery here, small mom and pop, that deals with tons of varieties of tomatoes and peppers
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 08:35 AM
Jul 2013

90 varieties of tomatoes (heirloom and hybrid) and 40 of peppers. In August, they have a tomato tasting party that brings foodies from all over the state, and the related magazines and restaurants, in for a huge event. Right down the road in the middle of nowhere....I am trying 3 new heirloom varieties this year in addition to my normal favs.

I can't wait for your book...I simply love tomatoes, and have read your information through DU here. You have a real love and expertise for them, and that will translate into good, must have reading, and a keeper for my personal library.

 

TheMadMonk

(6,187 posts)
54. Yes, but because the fruit is not attached to vine, it's not getting that last "sugar rush"...
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 10:01 PM
Jul 2013

...from the plant as it dies / goes dormant.

If find store bought tastes so bloody bland/crap that apart from the occasional banana, the only fruit I eat these days is scrumped, which is sometimes a bit problematical for a hairy bastard in his late 40's.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
55. You just threw out a term
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 10:11 PM
Jul 2013

that my Southern US self is unfamiliar with.

Please excuse me if I ask you what "scrumped" means. I'm familiar with all of the other words, and likely any terms you throw at me that are colloquial.

Sentath

(2,243 posts)
57. Err, chemistry geekery here
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 01:45 PM
Jul 2013

Ethylene Glycol is a liquid, used to be the main component of antifreeze, but it is sweet and toxic, so it was removed, mostly.

Ethylene is a gas. Like Ethane, but less Hydrogen, so the carbons double bond.

TexasTowelie

(112,234 posts)
4. Unless the health department is coming by to check,
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 10:46 PM
Jul 2013

I'd say let them remain at room temperature prior to slicing.

Refrigerating tomatoes gives them a mushy consistency that would probably be a delight to a mixologist. However, I think that most people prefer fresh tomatoes at room temperature.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
48. Thanks for the response.
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 04:28 PM
Jul 2013

I know this now. LOL. I didn't know before, but it is good to be told differently. I'm just shocked that my Aunt is right. She right about so little, and everything in politics.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,015 posts)
5. tomatoes in the fridge - never! because....
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 10:46 PM
Jul 2013

They change in many ways when refrigerated.

Actually, no tomatoes in any store or market should ever be refrigerated - if they are, that is a pretty big no-no.

Refrigeration of tomatoes changes the cellular structure (makes them mushy/mealy). Tomatoes have so many aromatic compounds responsible for their distinct and unique flavors - and most of them are quite volatile; when chilled, the substances can't reach your nasal passage - hence can't be "tasted".

Why some of us "love" the flavor of refrigerated tomatoes, I feel, is that it is a flavor of nostalgia - that is how many of us remember the flavor of tomatoes because that's what our parents did.

That's my two cents on the topic!

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
49. Thank you for the science behind it
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 04:29 PM
Jul 2013

and I can see that. It really is fascinating how food can change characteristics in the refrigerator, though I don't know why I am surprised since it can in the presence of acid, base or heat.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
46. I've finally gotten that drilled into my thick head
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 04:25 PM
Jul 2013

I think that's why I never liked tomatoes, the scent and texture is off after being in the refrigerator.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
9. Well ya'll answered my question to a T
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 10:50 PM
Jul 2013

See, my mother always put them in the fridge, and I hated tomatoes. Then I tried some tomatoes that were never in the fridge, and I liked them. I guess that answers my question of why I hated tomatoes

NRaleighLiberal

(60,015 posts)
12. Or the opposite - if you learn to love that flavor when young, it is a shock to taste
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 10:53 PM
Jul 2013

vine ripened, unrefrigerated ones!

And of course, tomatoes vary widely - and I mean, like night and day - depending upon which variety, how they are grown, where they are grown, what the weather was like that year, and even vary between first, middle and late in the season.

It is endlessly fascinating!

To make it even more complex, we all taste things differently - one person's tart tomato is another's sweet! tomato tastings are really fun - just like wine tastings, in a way (except you get canker sores instead of drunk!)

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
16. The best thing I ever went to
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 10:55 PM
Jul 2013

was a pepper tasting festival. I *LOVE* hot peppers, and the complexity of each was fascinating. I had the best time that day just savoring the flavor of each type!

applegrove

(118,677 posts)
15. Fresh tomatoes from a garden always taste better than storebought. We never used to put
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 10:54 PM
Jul 2013

them in the fridge.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
24. That's why I love this group
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 11:06 PM
Jul 2013

My mother is great at a number of things, but cooking just isn't one of them. I've had to search out information to become decent at it. Mind you, some wonderful people have passed on recipes to me and taught me things so that I'm not a complete novice, but there is always more to learn.

Thanks all

 

TheMadMonk

(6,187 posts)
27. If you find yourself with too many tomatoes freeze them.
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 12:14 AM
Jul 2013

Trick I learnt by accident when we ended up with waaaaay too many sauce tomatoes.

Let the tomatoes fully ripen (on vine by preference) then put them in the freezer. Don't worry about bagging them against freezer burn.

Then when you need a few for cooking, run them under hot tap, peel off the skin and drop straight in the pot whole.

 

TheMadMonk

(6,187 posts)
52. Why bother. bag for convenience if you like, but the skin's coming off anyway.
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 09:55 PM
Jul 2013

What happened is, a friend of the family had promised to bring some from the local grower, but kept forgetting, so we went and got them ourselves. Spent 2 days turning 50 lb into sauce/ketchup, then came home from shopping to find 50 lb waiting on the back step.

All sauced out, we upended crate into the chest freezer and used them in spaghetti sauce for the next couple of years.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
53. Thanks for that explanation :D
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 09:59 PM
Jul 2013

I didn't think of it that way! You are truly smart for doing it that way, and I will do it too!

elleng

(130,964 posts)
28. Dad said, NEVER put tomatoes in fridge, so I don't,
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 01:34 AM
Jul 2013

but grocery tomatoes just DON'T taste like tomatoes should. Dad grew them, but I don't have a garden.

Lugnut

(9,791 posts)
29. NEVER in the fridge.
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 02:26 AM
Jul 2013

Store bought or homegrown tomatoes should never see the inside of a fridge.

We grow our own in the summer and OD on them as long as the plants are producing. I roast all the excess ones on a baking sheet in the oven and ziplock bag them for freezer storage for the winter. After I slice the tomatoes I sprinkle minced garlic and Italian seasoning on them and drizzle them with EVOO and pop them in a 350 degree oven for about 1/2 hour. They make delicious spaghetti or general cooking sauce.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
31. Tomatoes get mealy in the fridge if left there more than overnight
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 09:55 AM
Jul 2013

They get an odd texture and lose much of their flavor.

Commercially grown tomatoes are picked green and ripened with ethylene gas. They can tolerate some refrigeration while green, but not so much as they ripen.

I could eat all seven of those tomatoes in one batch. One of my favorite ways to eat fresh tomatoes is to cut them into slices, sprinkle with sea salt and drizzle with light olive olive oil and balsamic. I also love tomato sandwiches with just tomatoes, mayo and a little salt.

Is there a mouth watering smilie?

northoftheborder

(7,572 posts)
32. definitely, in my experience with growing, and enjoying other's abundance of tomatoes....
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 10:27 AM
Jul 2013

leave them out of refrigerator.

However, best to not pile up in a bowl, should be one layer only.

However, (and this is after last year's huge abundant harvest of my son's plantings) if you have too many to eat or give away, and get tired of freezing, if they start to look soft, and ready to ferment, you can put them in to frig. to make them last another day so you can have more time to freeze or cook into sauce.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
41. I have mine in a single layer
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 03:17 PM
Jul 2013

another thing my Aunt told me to do, but thanks for the reassurance that I was handling them the right way!

CrispyQ

(36,478 posts)
34. You have the answer to your question, but I wanted to share a story.
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 12:25 PM
Jul 2013

One summer I was working with an engineering department. Two of the guys lived in the mountains, one by a stream & the other by a lake. They started bringing in tomatoes & it quickly became a competition of the river tomatoes vs lake tomatoes. Eventually the entire department got into it & we'd have "sandwich Friday's." We each contributed something to the makings for sandwiches & salads & of course, tons of tomatoes! Those were some of the best lunches I've ever had!

Store tomatoes are a pathetic joke.

wryter2000

(46,051 posts)
36. I don't buy tomatoes in the store
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 02:43 PM
Jul 2013

I've been suckered in so many times by gimmicks, like still on stems and hothouse grown.
All of them taste like damp cardboard.

I'm with everyone else. Keep the 'maters out of the fridge. I'd probably sit down and eat all seven of them. When I get a really good tomato, I eat it out of hand, like an apple, maybe with a little salt. And tomato sandwiches.

A good tomato is the most delicious food on Earth, as far as I'm concerned.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
42. By the way
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 03:20 PM
Jul 2013

I'm a network engineer, and we occasionally have potlucks of things we bring. Mine is either red beans and rice or black beans and yellow rice. Both get devoured . My favorite is still the 7-layer dip the hardware supervisor brings . It all chills nicely in the cold rooms (or in my case, the crock pot stays warm on a power strip).

CrispyQ

(36,478 posts)
43. I love potlucks!
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 03:30 PM
Jul 2013

It's funny how, even if you don't plan it, you end up with a variety of stuff to eat.

We had 7 layer dip yesterday!

The empressof all

(29,098 posts)
37. NEVER! However....
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 03:08 PM
Jul 2013

Whenever I have a plethora of tomatoes (especially the little ones) I pop them on a cookie sheet with some olive oil, salt and pepper and roast them. They can then be put in the fridge or just thrown in with some pasta or rice. I frequently roast them with zucchini, onions and garlic. Very yummy on their own or as an ingredient in another dish.

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