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How do I make my meatloaf fluffier? (Original Post) rhett o rick Nov 2013 OP
A few suggestions BainsBane Nov 2013 #1
Thank you. Good tips. rhett o rick Nov 2013 #2
Oh yes, rolled oats. BainsBane Nov 2013 #3
Rolled oats in meatloaf? rdharma Nov 2013 #4
That's what my mother always used, and it was OK, even from me, an oatmeal despiser.... northoftheborder Nov 2013 #8
What quantity of fresh bread? Crusts included? nm rhett o rick Nov 2013 #12
bread amount..... northoftheborder Nov 2013 #15
Oatmeal is very healthy....... but..... rdharma Nov 2013 #14
Hmm. will have to try cooked rice. love basmati. northoftheborder Nov 2013 #16
I am getting some great ideas here. THanks to all. nm rhett o rick Nov 2013 #17
I disagree BainsBane Nov 2013 #27
My mom always made that style of meatloaf with brown gravy. rdharma Nov 2013 #33
That all depends on whether the meatloaf you had growing up was any good. winter is coming Nov 2013 #34
Follow the same guidelines as for a good meatball Tab Nov 2013 #5
I'll echo the don't overwork the ground meats comments. pinto Nov 2013 #6
I don't use his recipe, but this video has a lot of good techniques Major Nikon Nov 2013 #7
Thank you. Very interesting. nm rhett o rick Nov 2013 #10
I usually use ground turkey from the store. I dont have a grinder but could I chop turkey small rhett o rick Nov 2013 #13
Yes to both questions Major Nikon Nov 2013 #19
How important is the fat? My mother's recipe used fatty ground beef and rhett o rick Nov 2013 #26
It's up to you Major Nikon Nov 2013 #30
Thank you. I am sure my mom used as fat (inexpensive) ground beef as she could rhett o rick Nov 2013 #31
I like to put a couple of pieces of streaky bacon in the food processor with the carrot and onion Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2013 #42
Interesting how he does it without a loaf pan. rdharma Nov 2013 #18
Yes, I am going to try that also. nm rhett o rick Nov 2013 #24
Mix it with a spoon instead of squeezing it through your fingers Warpy Nov 2013 #9
Good point. I have been using a fork but it does tend to compact also. nm rhett o rick Nov 2013 #11
A panade of panko and whole milk. An egg--all proven 'lifters' of meat/starch. nt msanthrope Nov 2013 #20
Bread crumbs, vegetables Retrograde Nov 2013 #21
I agree. rdharma Nov 2013 #23
My wife's recipes uses shredded carrots, celery and minced onions, sauted. nm rhett o rick Nov 2013 #25
rustic bread crumbs soaked in 1/2 n 1/2 NJCher Nov 2013 #22
another vote for oats grasswire Nov 2013 #28
and I make a big round loaf in a pie plate grasswire Nov 2013 #29
The best way to overcome a dense meat loaf is to incorporate a panade into the mix. Jenoch Nov 2013 #32
Stuffing mix Aerows Nov 2013 #35
Or even unseasoned croutons...... nt rdharma Nov 2013 #36
Another good idea! n/t Aerows Nov 2013 #38
Does anybody here like spinach in their meatloaf? rdharma Nov 2013 #37
I grind it straight into the pan. sir pball Nov 2013 #39
My old recipe from the 60's dem in texas Nov 2013 #40
Thanks, I think I can learn from all inputs but I dont have trouble making rhett o rick Nov 2013 #41
we use white rice for the filler sad-cafe Nov 2013 #43
I grate my onion for meatloaf Whisp Nov 2013 #44

BainsBane

(53,072 posts)
1. A few suggestions
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 03:59 PM
Nov 2013

Last edited Tue Nov 5, 2013, 11:14 PM - Edit history (1)

Use oatmeal rather than breadcrumbs or use fresh bread crumbs you make yourself and avoid making them too fine.

Don't grind or process the meat too finely. You might combine the ingredients by hand and don't pack the loaf pan tightly.

I know what you mean because I don't care for dense meatloaf.

northoftheborder

(7,574 posts)
8. That's what my mother always used, and it was OK, even from me, an oatmeal despiser....
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 05:13 PM
Nov 2013

But I've never used oatmeal in meat loaf. Use fresh bread, usually, in medium pieces, (not crumb) to make it less dense.

northoftheborder

(7,574 posts)
15. bread amount.....
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 06:01 PM
Nov 2013

For one pound of ground beef, I use one piece of bread, whatever kind I have, just torn into pieces. It breaks up and mushes in with the rest of the ingredients. for that amount of meat, I use one egg, and about a quarter cup of milk or other liquid. One recipe I've tried, is Martha Stewart's mother's recipe, which uses celery, onion, & carrot, processed as much as you can in the food processor (sneaking in veggies for kids) and liquid from the veggies is the only liquid you need.

 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
14. Oatmeal is very healthy....... but.....
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 05:59 PM
Nov 2013

Yuck! Bread crumbs or rice is a much better "meat loaf extender". My dear mom also used oatmeal in meatloaf.

I like brown basmati cooked with low sodium chicken broth. I refry this rice to remove excess moisture and give it kind of a crunchy texture before adding to the meatloaf mixture.

Steel cut oats (groats) might be a healthy and good tasting alternative. I think I would prepare them pretty much like the basmati rice above.

BainsBane

(53,072 posts)
27. I disagree
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 11:12 PM
Nov 2013

Meatloaf is one of those things that should taste like the meatloaf you ate growing up. I make my aunt Eileen's meatloaf with rolled oats, milk, an egg, onions, salt, pepper, and sage. The only modification I make is adding garlic.

 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
33. My mom always made that style of meatloaf with brown gravy.
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 04:00 PM
Nov 2013

Like your aunt Eileen, mom didn't use garlic either.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
34. That all depends on whether the meatloaf you had growing up was any good.
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 07:43 PM
Nov 2013

I had a brother-in-law who thought he hated all sorts of dishes... until my sister made them. Eventually, he realized that his mother couldn't cook for shit. Neither could his sister. One of the things my sister and I used to chuckle over when we got together (and her hubby wasn't around) was the serial horror story of the latest "family Thanskgiving".

That said, I've nothing against using rolled oats in oatmeal. I've done it, many times, and it works fine, even if you don't like oatmeal in it's other forms.

Tab

(11,093 posts)
5. Follow the same guidelines as for a good meatball
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 04:22 PM
Nov 2013

Mix of meats (shoulder, pork, lamb), breads, etc. I think you'll find far more articles on a fluffy meatball than fluffy meatloaf, yet effectively they're the same thing.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
7. I don't use his recipe, but this video has a lot of good techniques
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 04:44 PM
Nov 2013

I grind the meat with my meat grinder and my recipe is a bit different, but there's a lot of good methodology in the video for getting a good meatloaf.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
13. I usually use ground turkey from the store. I dont have a grinder but could I chop turkey small
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 05:52 PM
Nov 2013

enough with a food processor? Would it need some fat?

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
19. Yes to both questions
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 06:16 PM
Nov 2013

There's nothing wrong with using a food processor to chop meat, but I just like a little more consistency with meat loaf so I use a meat grinder. Using a food processor has its advantages if you are also using it for the other ingredients as you'll have less to clean.

For the meat, Alton is using a mixture of half sirloin and half chuck. Sirloin has about 10% fat and Chuck has about 20%, so the end product will have around 15% fat which is pretty much ideal for a meat loaf. Turkey thigh meat only has around 5% fat and breast meat is even less.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
26. How important is the fat? My mother's recipe used fatty ground beef and
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 10:58 PM
Nov 2013

it was kinda fatty when cold. Not the best for sandwiches.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
30. It's up to you
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 08:49 AM
Nov 2013

However, most people are going to prefer some fat content anytime you're trying to get ground meat to stay together. So when it comes to sausages, hamburger patties, meatballs and the like most people are going to prefer fat content that is around 15-20%. I usually shoot for around 15% in all of those things.

If the meat is cold, saturated fat is not going to be in a liquid state so taste and texture are going to be a bit different, especially if you're using ground beef with a high fat content. Some ground beef will have a fat content as high as 30%. That's why a lot of recipes will mix in a leaner ground meat to get the fat content down.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
31. Thank you. I am sure my mom used as fat (inexpensive) ground beef as she could
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 02:25 PM
Nov 2013

find. I was never found of her meat loaf. My wife's meatloaf is on the other extreme. She uses lots of vegetables, shredded carrots, chopped celery, and onions that she saute before adding.

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
42. I like to put a couple of pieces of streaky bacon in the food processor with the carrot and onion
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 09:22 AM
Nov 2013

Adds to the fat.

I now see how I've been getting the glaze on my meatloaf wrong for lo these many years.

 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
18. Interesting how he does it without a loaf pan.
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 06:09 PM
Nov 2013

I'm going to give that a try.

And the glaze recs were also interesting.

Warpy

(111,351 posts)
9. Mix it with a spoon instead of squeezing it through your fingers
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 05:29 PM
Nov 2013

Squeezing compacts everything together and makes the whole thing leaden.

Retrograde

(10,158 posts)
21. Bread crumbs, vegetables
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 09:54 PM
Nov 2013

I've taken to making my meat loaves about 1/4 vegetables by volume- a finely chopped mirepoix of celery, carrots and onion. I wouldn't call them "fluffy", but they seem less dense than all meat.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
28. another vote for oats
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 12:58 AM
Nov 2013

That's been the standard in my family for generations.

ground beef
oats
eggs
milk
diced onion
poultry seasoning (sage and thyme)
S&P

Delicious.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
32. The best way to overcome a dense meat loaf is to incorporate a panade into the mix.
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 02:29 PM
Nov 2013

A panade is bread mixed with dairy, milk, 1/2 & 1/2, or cream. The other way to lighten the meat loaf is to not over mix it, treat it gently. That's the best way to make a good hamburger too.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
35. Stuffing mix
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 12:01 AM
Nov 2013

with some beef broth. That will not only make it more fluffy, it will wake up the flavor. Cut back on the salt, though, if you use that idea. You might actually not need *any* salt. I never do when I make it. Don't punch it down too much, either. That causes it to clump up and become a bit tougher.

sir pball

(4,760 posts)
39. I grind it straight into the pan.
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 01:16 PM
Nov 2013

I use whole meat, chopped by hand, and well-mixed with the rest of the ingredients, also chopped. All medium-to-fine dice, maybe 1/4 inch. After it's all well mixed, I run it through the meat grinder with a fine die and catch it right in the loaf pan, just patting it enough to fit. It barely holds together when it comes out, it's crumbly and spongy but in a wonderfully light way. Also a literal way, an inch-thick slice will actually absorb about half a cup of gravy

dem in texas

(2,674 posts)
40. My old recipe from the 60's
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 08:23 PM
Nov 2013

I have made this recipe hundreds of times, had lots of request for it. I add a package of dry onion soup, a finely chopped onion and a little chopped celery. One thing I do is soak about 3 slices of bread in milk. After 10 or 15 mins, squeeze out the milk and discard the milk and add the squeezed bread to the meat mixture. Add 1/4 cup catsup, little black pepper, some dry parsley flakes, one beaten egg and a tablespoon or two of Worcestershire. sauce About 1 1/2 to 2 pounds ground chuck makes a good size loaf for my family. I like ground chuck, it has good flavor and a little more fat in it than ground sirloin. ( Please no fatty cheap hamburger). Mix it well with hands and place in greased baking dish, shaping into loaf. I "ice" it with catsup and lay green bell pepper strips on top. I started leaving out the bell pepper in the meat because some in my family didn't like them. So they are still there for the bell pepper lovers, the other can pull them off the top.

I cover it with foil and bake at 325 degrees for an hour or so, take off the foil. If the meat loaf gave up liquid and fat, drain it off when you remove the foil. Put back in the oven and let the meatloaf brown up, should take 15 to 20 minutes. When out of the oven, it slices better if it stands for 5 or 10 minutes.

This loaf is not fluffy, but dense and meaty, and it slices up well when cold and half the deliciousness of meatloaf is when you eat it cold in a sandwich.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
41. Thanks, I think I can learn from all inputs but I dont have trouble making
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 11:30 PM
Nov 2013

dense meaty meatloaf. But I think I prefer a little fluff. Agree it doesnt stay together well for sandwiches.

Thank you for the input.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
44. I grate my onion for meatloaf
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 02:33 AM
Nov 2013

A fine, messy pile of grated onion. This is good in meatloaf, meatballs and burgers. Makes them juicier/tender.

I also use soda crackers that I bust up in a zip lock with my rolling pin, instead of oatmeal or bread.

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