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Electric Monk

(13,869 posts)
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 08:14 PM Jun 2014

I'm thinking of trying sous vide cooking. Before I do, does anyone have any tips or warnings?

I saw one of the chefs on Chopped use a sous vide cooker, which was totally new to me, then I googled a bit and found this page with some interesting reading

http://thesweethome.com/reviews/best-cheap-sous-vide-gear/

Over the last few of years, sous vide cooking has blossomed into the public consciousness. Now a mainstay of cooking shows and internet discussions, sous vide involves sealing your food—ideally within a vacuum—and then immersing it in warm water for hours at a time until the entire thing reaches a uniform temperature. The result? Steak that’s a perfect medium rare throughout (no cold, raw centers or overcooked outsides involved), chicken so tender that you don’t even need a knife and eggs the consistency of custard. That’s what sous vide can do. And for the most part, it’s quite easy.

Sous vide cooking intrigues me, an amateur home cook with a love for science and technology. On one hand, it packs the simplicity of low-and-slow cooking as with a crock pot; on the other, the exceptional temperature control means you can do all sorts of fun things that almost get you in the neighborhood of molecular gastronomy. However, like most home cooks, the prospect of dropping more than $1,000 on a cooking appliance seems excessive to me—hell, even $500 is more than I’d pay for anything in my kitchen but the oven. Yet over the last couple of years we’ve seen some of these cookers drop into the price range of mere mortals.

The standard sous vide procedure for meat goes something like this: seal it with some herbs and spices using a vacuum sealer (or just a Ziploc bag with all the air displaced). Get your water to temperature. Throw the meat in the water for a couple of hours (or as long as you want; it won’t overcook). Then remove the meat and sear it to get a nice crust. Since the meat heats through to an exact temperature, you can get some wonderful effects that you can’t get with standard-issue kitchen gear. You can make beef exactly as done as you like, all the way through. Or you can have a roast that’s set exactly to the temperature at which fat breaks down, giving you the tenderness of hours of braising but the pink flesh of a medium-rare roast.


and I'm intrigued, to say the least. I haven't bought any equipment yet, but the Anova unit they review looks pretty good, and easy to use.

Are there any hazards or pitfalls I should be aware of, other than having to sear your meat separately if that's how you want it?
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flamin lib

(14,559 posts)
1. I have the ANOVA and it is effin fantastic.
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 08:47 PM
Jun 2014

I cook brisket @ 130 for 3 days and it's tender, moist, pink (medium rare) and delicious. Pork loin roast @ 138 for 6 hours and perfect! Prime rib roast @ 128-130 for 5 hours then blast it on the grill for color and myard, perfect medium rare. Beef short ribs @ 130 for 2-3 days and you'll not buy tenderloin again.

Don't like chicken so much, its a texture thing and same for fish except for salmon. Veggies don't benefit much except carrots, haven't tried many others.

I found an android app @ cookingsousvide.com that is excellent guide.

I find that seasoning before cooking is pointless as the meat exudes some liquid which will take any surface seasoning with it. Season before searing/browning or at service.

Won't cook beef or pork any other way.

 

Electric Monk

(13,869 posts)
6. Thanks for the first-hand review of the Anova. I was only planning on using it for meat, anyway
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 09:50 PM
Jun 2014

not veggies, etc. The chef on Chopped did fish in his, I forget exactly what kind (halibut?) and it came out very pale but the judges said the texture and taste was perfectly done. I'll probably start with beef or pork, as you suggest.

flamin lib

(14,559 posts)
7. Halibut and salmon are both firm oily fish so the results
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 11:05 PM
Jun 2014

should be similar. Shark might work too. I tried catfish and tilapia and didn't like the texture, they're too flakey and tender. Besides why take that long to cook tilapia?

A benefit of the ANOVA is you can use any container that is at least 12 inches tall. I have a big stock pot and a 3 gallon paint bucket for big stuff like fresh picknik ham or brisket.

Don't worry about the low temps. The FDA came out with a time/temp chart and short version is 140f for 30 sec or some lower temp for a much longer time. Google is your friend if you're concerned.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
2. The only hazards I'm aware of is being below temperature
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 08:51 PM
Jun 2014

I've experimented with an electric frying pan and a digital thermometer. I can't get the "tenth of a degree" precision of real equipment, but I've had some nicely done steaks.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
4. It's very hard, if not impossible to displace all the air in a ziplock
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 09:44 PM
Jun 2014

You can't really displace all the air even with the best vacuum sealers, but you'll do a lot better than a ziplock. Not getting all the air out is not a big problem at lower temperatures, but at temps above 150 or so the air will expand and your bag will float.

The cheaper vacuum sealers work fine for most applications, but all the ingredients must not be in liquid form (you can freeze liquids and then seal them). Chamber vacuums are the best because they draw out more air and can work with liquid ingredients, but they are also more expensive and typically take up more room.

The really great part about sous vide is you are cooking more by temperature than time. This means you can put on a couple of steaks before you leave for work and they will be perfectly cooked by the time you come home regardless of how long that takes. All you have to do is slap them on a hot skillet for a couple of minutes per side for the Maillard reaction. You can also transform what would normally be a tough piece of meat to tender perfection since you are cooking long enough to transform the tough connective tissue into gelatin.

 

Electric Monk

(13,869 posts)
5. Hmm, I still think I'll try ziplocks first before spending extra money on a vacuum sealer
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 09:47 PM
Jun 2014

but thanks for the heads up.

flamin lib

(14,559 posts)
8. If you're gonna start with zip locks fill a container big enough to
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 11:14 PM
Jun 2014

submerge the bag and sink it all the way to the zip lock to force out as much air as possible. I have a personal issue with Food Saver, they don't service their product after warranty so it's disposable and they say it isn't designed for 'heavy duty use' like bulk packaging.

Another benefit is that food sealed under vacuum doesn't oxidize so you can do several servings and keep them refrigerated for use up to a week with no 'left over' taste.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
9. Ziplock makes special bags with a hand pump
Fri Jun 13, 2014, 03:02 AM
Jun 2014

It's considerably cheaper to get started than an electric vacuum pump system. I've never tried it so I don't know how well it works.

http://www.amazon.com/Ziploc-Vacuum-Starter-3-Quart-1-Pump/dp/B003UEMFUG

Foodsaver pumps are more expensive. There are cheaper alternatives out there and I'm sure many of them work just as well if not better.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
10. I had my first sous vide the other night
Fri Jun 13, 2014, 09:18 AM
Jun 2014

and, to be honest, I really didn't get it.

The person who fixed it was super excited, but it seemed rather mushy, even slimy, to me.

It was a good cut of beef and he pan seared it after it had "sous vided" for the appropriate amount of time.

Seems like a lot of effort for something pretty unremarkable.

dem in texas

(2,674 posts)
11. Sounds like something Alton Brown might Like
Fri Jun 13, 2014, 09:44 PM
Jun 2014

Sounds like too much trouble to me and cooking the meat so long, I like mine fresh. And slow cooked prime rib - forget it. Slow cooking is for tougher meats.

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