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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,533 posts)
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 01:50 PM Aug 2018

They're Falsely Accused of Shoplifting, but Retailers Demand Penalties

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Disgusting behavior by Walmart -- a legal letter-mill preying on low-income people unlikely to have the funds/wherewithal to hire a lawyer (to show there's no proof they shoplifted): "They’re Falsely Accused of Shoplifting, but Retailers Demand Penalties" https://nyti.ms/2OFYQHS



They’re Falsely Accused of Shoplifting, but Retailers Demand Penalties

Walmart and other companies are using aggressive legal tactics to get the money back, demanding payments even when people haven’t been convicted of wrongdoing.

By Michael Corkery
Aug. 17, 2018

MOBILE, Ala. — Crystal Thompson was at home watching the Rose Bowl parade when a county sheriff came to arrest her for shoplifting from the local Walmart. ... Ms. Thompson, 43, was baffled and scared. An agoraphobic, she had not shopped at a Walmart in more than a year. She was taken to a Mobile jail, searched, held in a small room and required to remove her false teeth, something she didn’t even do in front of her husband.

Four days after she returned home, the letters from Walmart’s lawyer started to arrive. The lawyer demanded that Ms. Thompson pay the company $200 or face a possible lawsuit. She received three letters over two months in early 2016.

Shoplifting is an intractable problem for retailers, costing stores more than $17 billion a year, according to an industry estimate. To get the money back, many companies employ aggressive legal tactics and take advantage of loosely written state laws, pushing for restitution even when people have not been convicted of wrongdoing.

Many of the laws were established so retailers could pursue shoplifters without clogging up the courts. Retailers, though, often move on both fronts, pressing criminal charges against suspects, while demanding that they pay up before cases are resolved. ... In many states, retailers do not have to return the money they collect if the cases are ultimately dismissed or the people are cleared. A Walmart executive, in a court deposition, acknowledged that the company did not follow up to check on whether people it sought money from had been convicted of shoplifting.



A letter sent to Ms. Thompson by the Palmer Reifler law firm demanding payment. She received three letters over two months.
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A version of this article appears in print on Aug. 19, 2018, on Page BU1 of the New York edition with the headline: Retailers Treat Them As Thieves, Guilty or Not. Order Reprints | Today’s Paper | Subscribe
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They're Falsely Accused of Shoplifting, but Retailers Demand Penalties (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2018 OP
KICK for exposure Angry Dragon Aug 2018 #1
This happens to people a lot CountAllVotes Aug 2018 #2
OMG I have never heard of such a thing. Oppaloopa Aug 2018 #9
yeah CountAllVotes Aug 2018 #13
Wow, how disgusting. Burn it all down. nt Lucky Luciano Aug 2018 #3
Agree that this is disgusting and needs to be stopped immediately - enough. iluvtennis Aug 2018 #6
Innocent until "proven" guilty? world wide wally Aug 2018 #4
Employees follow suspects to parking lot and jot down their license tag wishstar Aug 2018 #5
Don't ever shop there. Ever. Ever. flying_wahini Aug 2018 #7
I hate Wal-Mart! Stonepounder Aug 2018 #12
A mattress? Jimvanhise Aug 2018 #8
It was an inflatable mattress, so it was in a box, uninflated FakeNoose Aug 2018 #10
This is like a second cousin yonder Aug 2018 #11

CountAllVotes

(20,876 posts)
13. yeah
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 11:54 PM
Aug 2018

I drop stuff a lot. I cannot help it.
It happens in stores, etc. etc.
Almost got the cops called on me in one instance.




wishstar

(5,270 posts)
5. Employees follow suspects to parking lot and jot down their license tag
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 03:33 PM
Aug 2018

Charging based on license plate is apparently a method used according to the article that explains how a woman's daughter scanned items and went out to car that was licensed to her mother. Walmart used the license tag to accuse the mother who wasn't even there of shoplifting. Apparently in these cases the employee just guesses how much the merchandise was worth and has no proof whatsoever.

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
12. I hate Wal-Mart!
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 04:51 PM
Aug 2018

I go there for only one thing. We have two diabetic dogs. Insulin at Wal-Mart costs me about $30/mo. Anywhere else it runs me over $100/mo. Wal-Mart has its own brand and buy it by the tanker load.

Everything else I get elsewhere.

Jimvanhise

(302 posts)
8. A mattress?
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 04:03 PM
Aug 2018

How do you steal a mattress? Drag it through the store and slip out when no one is looking? There is a lot of theft at Walmart. A store near me did inventory and discovered a million dollars in merchandise was missing. That is done by people putting something on the bottom of the cart so that the check out clerk might not see it. I personally saw a guy about to leave the store with an overloaded cart through the garden department which doesn't always have a clerk around, but he was stopped and couldn't provide a receipt for what he had supposedly just paid for 5 minutes ago. They let him just walk out since he didn't get away with anything. Happens all the time, but not a mattress!

FakeNoose

(32,671 posts)
10. It was an inflatable mattress, so it was in a box, uninflated
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 04:26 PM
Aug 2018

People do steal stuff from Walmart. Sometimes they put things in a shopping cart and roll it out the door. But it's a mistake for Walmart or any retailer to accuse their customer of theft if they have no proof. The proof of course, is the register receipt that shows the time, date and location of the purchase. As long as the customer has that, there should be nothing to worry about.

yonder

(9,668 posts)
11. This is like a second cousin
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 04:33 PM
Aug 2018

to the civil forfeiture laws on the books in many states. Unfair, unjust and they have no place being used against anybody, poor or not.

One more reason to stay away from the Waltons.

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