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Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 08:34 AM Feb 2013

Police Union boss Pat Lynch calls for an assault weapon ban


The head of the NYPD’s largest police union yesterday called for an ”absolute ban” on assault weapons — except for cops and members of the military.

"There is no legitimate reason for an assault weapon with their high capacity magazines to ever be in the hands of a private citizen,” said Pat Lynch, head of the Patrolmen’s Benevolent Association. “We’ve said it before, when police officers were shot or where armor piercing bullets were used.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/pba-boss-assault-guns-article-1.1223085

Real cops. Not sheriffs. Cops out on the streets.
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Police Union boss Pat Lynch calls for an assault weapon ban (Original Post) Warren Stupidity Feb 2013 OP
It is annoying when the police even use the term "assault weapon" without defining it. iiibbb Feb 2013 #1
I find it slightly more annoying that clffrdjk Feb 2013 #11
good point.. iiibbb Feb 2013 #12
Theres.. raidert05 Feb 2013 #2
Sherrifs aren't cops? GreenStormCloud Feb 2013 #3
Only real cops fix tickets, then call it a professional courtesy Oneka Feb 2013 #5
Most are politicians. Of course, so are the leaders of big unions. Lizzie Poppet Feb 2013 #13
Warren got a bit upset by this: friendly_iconoclast Feb 2013 #14
True. GreenStormCloud Feb 2013 #16
Huh? Remmah2 Feb 2013 #4
Sheriffs > Cops Clames Feb 2013 #6
New York did pass a ban on assault weapons and hi-cap mags. jmg257 Feb 2013 #7
Look, look,look Oneka Feb 2013 #9
Imagine that. Oneka Feb 2013 #8
That illustrates the difference between the gun Prohibitionists here and people like me and you. friendly_iconoclast Feb 2013 #15
Some animals are more equal than others ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #10
 

iiibbb

(1,448 posts)
1. It is annoying when the police even use the term "assault weapon" without defining it.
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 08:47 AM
Feb 2013

There is no reason for a high capacity magazine?

Where I hunt there are feral dogs. I carry a handgun with a high capacity magazine because I don't want to be fumbling around with a magazine change if a pack of 5 of them were to decide I was worth the trouble.

That's at least 1 legitimate reason... which is higher than his claim of "no legitimate reason"...

It doesn't much matter to me what the police union says. When he goes home at night he has a gun, and a buttload of friends with guns.

I have myself and .....

 

clffrdjk

(905 posts)
11. I find it slightly more annoying that
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 12:17 PM
Feb 2013

Police refer to themselves as something other than private citizens. If they want to ban guns because they can only be used to kill large numbers of people then they have no reason to be exempted from such bans

 

raidert05

(185 posts)
2. Theres..
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 09:24 AM
Feb 2013

No reason for civillian authorities to have them either, why do police need weapons that are only design for war and to kill as many people as people as possible in a short amount of time. What war are they fighting in the streets of America that they need the same power as the military in there hands? What war are civillians waging that they need a 30 round magazines?

Oneka

(653 posts)
5. Only real cops fix tickets, then call it a professional courtesy
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 10:16 AM
Feb 2013
http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2011/10/patrick_lynch_p_1.php

This is the ASSHOLE that thinks only cops and military, should have access to self defense rifles? Color me surprised.
 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
13. Most are politicians. Of course, so are the leaders of big unions.
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 01:11 PM
Feb 2013

How actual rank-and-file LEOs feel about paramilitary semi-automatics can't be determined by the statements of politicians.

 

friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)
14. Warren got a bit upset by this:
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 03:21 PM
Feb 2013
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022287698

I daresay if the Sheriff's Association had supported an AWB, there would be no dispute from him about their
status as police.

GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
16. True.
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 07:35 PM
Feb 2013

He must be really upset by the police and sheriff departments around the country that have announced that they will not enforce a new AWB. I imagine that to him they are real cops either.

 

Remmah2

(3,291 posts)
4. Huh?
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 09:55 AM
Feb 2013

The head of the NYPD’s largest police union yesterday called for an ”absolute ban” on assault weapons — "except for cops and members of the military."


I feel safer already.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
7. New York did pass a ban on assault weapons and hi-cap mags.
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 10:37 AM
Feb 2013
"There is no legitimate reason for an assault weapon with their high capacity magazines to ever be in the hands of a private citizen,” said Pat Lynch, head of the Patrolmen’s Benevolent Association. “We’ve said it before, when police officers were shot or where armor piercing bullets were used.

“There’s no reason for anybody to have those type of weapons,”
he added.

I agree, so when will he decide the union members no longer need them? At least when not on duty or specifically once they retire?

Re: New York Secure Ammunition and Firearms Enforcement Act
January 17, 2013
The safety of our members is always a first concern for this union. For that reason, we support in principle any governmental effort to keep assault weapons out of the wrong hands. However, while the bill that was recently passed in Albany called the "New York Secure Ammunition and Firearms Enforcement Act" contains measures to prevent assault weapons from falling into the wrong hands, increases penalties for those wrongfully utilizing them, and incorporates provisions to protect the privacy of our members, it did not include an appropriate exemption for active and retired law enforcement officers. As with many pieces of new legislation, there is a period shortly after enactment where omissions and unforeseen impacts become apparent that prompt a revision to the law.

It is our belief that the failure to consider and exempt law enforcement personnel from its reach was brought about by the urgency to take action against those who might wrongfully use assault weapons, in light of the widely publicized tragedies at Sandy Hook elementary. The PBA is actively working to enact changes to this law that will provide the appropriate exemptions from the law for active and retired law enforcement officers.We will keep you advised as we seek the necessary changes to exempt law enforcement from the provisions of the law.

Fraternally,

Patrick J. Lynch
President

http://www.nycpba.org/

Obviously he feels the bill will be effective in keeping his members safe, so why would an exemption for police, at least for now when off duty, or retired police officers be 'appropriate'?

Oneka

(653 posts)
9. Look, look,look
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 11:13 AM
Feb 2013

I'll say it again. " no one is saying that anyone wants to take away your precious"


Oh wait;

"There is no legitimate reason for an assault weapon with their high capacity magazines to ever be in the hands of a private citizen,”



Heh;

Oneka

(653 posts)
8. Imagine that.
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 10:56 AM
Feb 2013

Pat lynch, the same guy who feels that police corruption,is a courtesy, wants to confiscate guns?


http://m.nydailynews.com/1.971369

Is anyone really surprised by that?

Perhaps you should seek out a different anti-gun hero. One who has a shred of credibility.

 

friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)
15. That illustrates the difference between the gun Prohibitionists here and people like me and you.
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 03:32 PM
Feb 2013
We have no problem whatsoever ridiculing the many idiocies of assholes like Wayne LaPierre and
Ted Nugent.

They either elide or defend the flaws of people like Pat Lynch, Rahm Emanuel, Michael Bloomberg
and the various and sundry crooks to be found in Mayors Against Illegal Guns
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