Gun Control & RKBA
Related: About this forum"Facts, Figures And Fallacies: the NRA's Misuse of Gun Statistics"
Facts, Figures And Fallacies: the NRA's Misuse of Gun Statisticsby Jim Borghesani at Cognoscenti
http://cognoscenti.wbur.org/2013/02/12/nra-gun-crimes-jim-borghesani
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In his testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee on Jan. 30, National Rifle Association executive vice president Wayne LaPierre trotted out a hoary chestnut of NRA mythology: Prosecutors dont go after gun criminals.
That means violent felons, gang members and the mentally ill who possess firearms are not being prosecuted. And thats unacceptable, LaPierre said.
Its also untrue.
LaPierre offered no statistics to back up his oft-repeated charge, save for a mention of federal gun crime prosecutions falling by 35 percent in 2011 compared to 2010 a claim discredited by the fact that violent crimes decreased nationwide during that span. LaPierre left unsaid that about 75 percent of federal gun crimes are originated by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, an agency the NRA has gone to extraordinary lengths to weaken.
LaPierre also didnt mention that the vast majority of gun crimes in America are handled by state, not federal, prosecutors. Gun murders, gang shootings, firearm assaults and armed robberies are rarely pulled up to federal court, for the simple reason that these crimes violate existing state laws and state prosecutors possess the investigative resources to pursue the cases. This is where the NRAs statistical claims become even more assailable.
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zbdent
(35,392 posts)Oh, wait ... only when it's a Dem/Lib; when it's a Repug/Con, hey, no prob!
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)partisan politics.
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)NRA = bad
authoritarian gun controllers = good
liberal Democrats who own firearms = bad, and even questionable as to whether they are liberals.
/sarcasm on
Obviously, the way to be a "good liberal" is to express a desire to take away the choice of Americans to lawfully own firearms in the home for self-defense, and demonizing liberal Democrats who own firearms and/or favor freedom of choice, must be a "liberal" value.
Also obviously, anyone who owns a firearm for any purpose must want to own 50-round clips, bazookas, and even atomic devices. These must be the people who are opposed to any type of regulation because they simply don't care about the children.
/sarcasm off
holdencaufield
(2,927 posts)... I would like an atomic device.
One of those '50s retro ones would make an awesome coffee table
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,481 posts)...this side would have to point up.
holdencaufield
(2,927 posts)... they haven't fantasized about doing THIS
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,481 posts)...between the "Major Kong" and "Cowboy" in The Getaway for my favorite Slim Pickens roles.
Vaya con Dios.
holdencaufield
(2,927 posts)as his 4th role in the film.
But, he couldn't pull off the accent so they hired Slim Pickens (and the movie is the better for it in my opinion)
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,481 posts)Would've been impossible to sit on the bomb.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)westcoastleftleaner
(2 posts)Having a mother and brother that are both schizo-effective, we still are avoiding the real issue!!!!!!! Being there payees and care providers why can they STILL both buy a legal firearm!!!!!!! WHY?
holdencaufield
(2,927 posts)It's hard for people to tell how crazy you are if you don't use a lot of exclamation marks.
Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)good luck, here.