...these guys also seem a bit 'know-it-all' which I find annoying. The cop comes off as an experienced pro.

Way too many let their emotions and their paranoia get the best of them.

There are effective ways to get your point across, and there are ways that make you look like a jackass - this IMO was the latter. But no matter what style of activism/protest/demonstration is chosen, and no matter what the topic, the most important thing is that the police behave professionally, legally, and safely - and this officer performed at a pretty high standard...

Watched the video. It hung up half wat through, cut Firefox off the web, and turned Microsoft Security Essentials off, I rebooted and am doing a fulL scan.

........ the point they wanted to prove is that they are ass hats!

You can bet that everybody who witnessed and reported this is going to be in favor of stricter gun legislation. Good work....... 'morans'!

What's the temperature in hell right now?

both positive and negative encounters with police. I don't think that he is out for a paycheck - he's had opportunity in the past to sue and hasn't.

I don't agree with his tactics, but he's right about several things. First, open carry without a permit is legal where he is filming. Second, unless the officers have reasonable suspicion of a crime, they can't require ID. Finally, he has the right to videotape public officials in a public place.

Some of the others are more or less a$$hats, but for the most part, they are within their rights. Cops have a difficult time dealing with situations like this, and need to be better educated on the rights of the people to film, to refuse to ID unless lawfully detained, etc.

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It's amazing how you showed up on DU for this topic!

Just sayin', folks!

I actually showed up on the illegal seizure of cellphones by Kern County SO, in violation of 42 USC 2000aa. I've posted about that on my blog, along with other police problems, primarily dealing with the First Amendment and photographer's rights.

Once I got here, I looked around and found this, was interested and commented.

I don't believe the government should violate any of Bill of Rights.

Is that something you disagree with, or do you just not like ex-cops?

You're better off just ignoring that poster. For some reason he thinks he owns the place and really has very little to add anyway.

Being new, I don't know all of the players yet.

While I personally like the concept of OC, I don't care for people looking to just get attention.

It's one thing to expose cops being wankers, but this doesn't help the progressive forward movement of the 2A.

I did, however, like the little hotdog cookout in a Ohio park a few yrs. back (open-carry advocates). They somehow just couldn't be frightening.

This all stems from citizens not knowing the law, and is exacerbated by street-beaters not knowing the law.

Cameras have to make police think twice now before violating civil rights. ANY civil rights.

If you think the recent war vet in Texas OCing a AR was lawfully detained, or "Cop baiting", that is nuts. And it is the same type of deal.