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petronius

(26,602 posts)
Mon May 20, 2013, 12:36 PM May 2013

California Senate approves measures aimed at reducing gun violence (LA Times)

SACRAMENTO --The state Senate approved two bills Thursday introduced following the mass killing at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut, including one requiring gun owners to keep their firearms in locked safe-boxes if they live with someone prohibited from using guns.

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SB 363 provides for up to three years in jail and a fine up to $10,000 if someone is convicted of allowing access to guns to a person prohibited by state law from possessing firearms, and if those firearms are used in cases where death or great bodily injury occur.

The measure was opposed by the California Attorneys for Criminal Justice, which argued many citizens have firearms in their homes for protection “and that having these firearms always locked up or with trigger locks because there may be a prohibited person in the house defeats this purpose.”

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http://www.latimes.com/news/local/political/la-me-pc-gun-violence-20130516,0,4993456.story

SB 363 text

As I read it, it seems that our state law already defines 'criminal storage' as allowing access to a child and that access occurs and injury results. This bill expands the existing law to include prohibited persons as well as children, plus defines an additional crime of unsafe storage even if the access and injury don't occur. (That latter part makes more sense to me than the existing law, in a way: it's always seemed strange when a crime only becomes a crime due to the outcome...)

(This is just a Senate bill so far; it would still need to pass the Assembly and the Governor.)
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California Senate approves measures aimed at reducing gun violence (LA Times) (Original Post) petronius May 2013 OP
My guess is that it will pass the Assembly and Brown will sign it. upaloopa May 2013 #1
That's my guess as well - unless I'm missing something, it doesn't seem to be petronius May 2013 #4
Seems reasonable. Is their a Cali standard for "locked up" guns? Eleanors38 May 2013 #2
I think it's the definitions given in Sections 16850 - 16870 petronius May 2013 #3

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
1. My guess is that it will pass the Assembly and Brown will sign it.
Mon May 20, 2013, 12:50 PM
May 2013

This doesn't restrict gun rights. It puts the the responsibility for misuse of guns where it belongs.

petronius

(26,602 posts)
4. That's my guess as well - unless I'm missing something, it doesn't seem to be
Mon May 20, 2013, 01:29 PM
May 2013

a particularly onerous or infringing requirement...

petronius

(26,602 posts)
3. I think it's the definitions given in Sections 16850 - 16870
Mon May 20, 2013, 01:27 PM
May 2013
16850. As used in Sections 17740, 23925, 25105, 25205, and 25610,
in Article 3 (commencing with Section 25505) of Chapter 2 of Division
5 of Title 4, in Chapter 6 (commencing with Section 26350) of
Division 5 of Title 4, and in Chapter 7 (commencing with Section
26400) of Division 5 of Title 4, "locked container" means a secure
container that is fully enclosed and locked by a padlock, keylock,
combination lock, or similar locking device. The term "locked
container" does not include the utility or glove compartment of a
motor vehicle.

16860. As used in Sections 16850, 25105, and 25205, "locking device"
means a device that is designed to prevent a firearm from
functioning and, when applied to the firearm, renders the firearm
inoperable.

16870. As used in this part, "long-gun safe" means a locking
container designed to fully contain and secure a rifle or shotgun,
which has a locking system consisting of either a mechanical
combination lock or an electronic combination lock that has at least
1,000 possible unique combinations consisting of a minimum of three
numbers, letters, or symbols per combination, and is not listed on
the roster maintained pursuant to Section 23655.

I would assume (hope) that the "similar locking device" from 16850 includes biometric safes and other 'fast access' containers, which would help alleviate the self defense objections for persons living with prohibited persons...
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