Gun Control & RKBA
Related: About this forumI have a question about an old shotgun
A single barrel 12 ga shotgun. My friend's Dad who recently passed away (in his nineties) who got it from HIS dad who lived on a farm in PA most of their lives so it's at least from the early 20th Century or possibly late 19th century. Don't know the brand yet because most of the etching is worn away it looks like from holding the gun, need a powerful mag glass or acid.
Living in NJ, does this gun, in a canvas case and sitting in closets for decades, need to be registered or can he just mount it on the wall without consequence?
Thanks.
(wow lots of lookers, is one of you an expert?)
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,482 posts)IIRC firearms manufactured before 1898 are subject to few if any regulations. I wouldn't just mount a gun on the wall. If he's interested in a decorative display, I would still suggest the addition of a trigger lock or some safety measure.
http://smartgunlaws.org/new-jersey-state-law-summary/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_New_Jersey
jimmy the one
(2,708 posts)Living in new jersey, the shotgun, which has been 'in the closet for decades' cannot legally register to marry another shotgun yet, so better back off on any mounting.
DainBramaged
(39,191 posts)jimmy the one
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Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)sarisataka
(18,770 posts)unless your friend is disqualified from owning a firearm, he is ok
(a) Notwithstanding the provisions of this subchapter concerning the transfer, receipt or
acquisition of a firearm, a permit to purchase a handgun or a firearms purchaser identification card
shall not be required for the passing of a firearm upon the death of an owner thereof to their heir or
legatee, whether the same be by testamentary bequest or by the laws of intestacy. A person so
acquiring ownership may retain the firearm if he or she meets the requirements of N.J.A.C. 13:54-
1.5 and 1.6.
(b) If an heir or legatee is not qualified to acquire a firearm, he or she may retain ownership of
the firearm for the purpose of sale for a period of 180 days, which period may be extended by the
chief of police or the Superintendent. During such period the firearm must be placed in the custody
of the chief of police or Superintendent.
(c) In the case of assault firearms or machine guns disposition shall be in accordance with
N.J.A.C. 13:54-5.
http://www.state.nj.us/njsp/info/pdf/firearms/062408_title13ch54.pdf
DainBramaged
(39,191 posts)I intend to get pics
sarisataka
(18,770 posts)I am researching guns in a collection I inherited recently. Some are quite valuable but the sentimental value is priceless. I am trying to figure a method to display some while preventing theft risk.
DainBramaged
(39,191 posts)He is taking it to a friend who is an avid hunter/shooter who thinks he cn get the information off the barrel. Has a walnut stock, breaks apart into four pieces.
sarisataka
(18,770 posts)Iver Johnson, Champion, H&R, New England Firearms Co... the list goes on.
Good luck examining the markings
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)At a gun show a few yrs. back I came across a nice .20 ga single marked: "Nitro" and "Iver Johnson Gun & Cycle Works." For a hundred books, should have bought it.
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)But it seems that you might need a Firearms Owners ID. There may be an exemption because of its age. For example, if it was made before 1898, it is exempt from federal gun laws. That said, a call to the local cop shop could give better information.
pipoman
(16,038 posts)It's all in the name..millions and millions of single shot guns were made by Crescent Arms..on these millions Crescent would stamp them with any name a company who ordered 50 or so guns wanted..these are referred to as "house brand guns"..IIRC Crescent has like 300 brands associated with them..most are valued at $30 to $100 if you can find anyone to buy them..some are a little more because of relative rarity and specific interest collectors..for instance there is one stamped "Lee's Lightning" that I would probably pay $300 for because of local interest..but they are the exception..
Then there are the super quality brands of the time..mostly European..some of them are very pricey and collectable..
A good resource is linked below. Let me just say I have no idea their political affiliation or if there is a political slant on the site..I have gone to their "ask the experts" forums for years for help and information..I think you have to register now to post a question...it used to be an open board until a few years ago..
http://www.antiqueguns.com/
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)With open, IC and 26" barrels it was our go-to quail gun, but was just fine with "max loads" for duck hunting. Good strong Crescent utility gun.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)...your friend could fill the barrel, or at least the first six inches at the breech end so that a shell cannot be inserted, with cement or epoxy.
This way it would look just the same as a fully functional weapon. For someone concerned about retaining it's value, a trigger lock is better.
Answers about legality in NJ seem to have been answered above.
Jenoch
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DainBramaged
(39,191 posts)I try NOT to come here but I guess some of us, even when asking an innocent question, must abide by someone's idea of strict rule following.
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oneshooter
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(56,912 posts)Have a Nice day your own self DB