I don't get it...... what's the problem?!!!

When hiking in northern Wisconsin, wear ghillie suit

... or just exercising their 2nd Amendment "rights"?

I don't get it...... what's the problem?!!!

those are not 'militiamen'. They are hired guns. They were hired by the mining company drilling test bore holes.

I don't get it....... what's the problem?!!

Pinkerton, or just assholes who answered in ad in Soldier of Fortune. They look too professional and well equipped to be a "militia" group.

They're just some "Barney Fife" security employees.

...previously Xe Services LLC, Blackwater USA and Blackwater Worldwide.

I'm not certain that an open carry law applies.

They might not feel like leaving their gear in their locked vehicle...... so they should just go in packing.

There would be nothing wrong with that, if open carry is legal in the state...... right?!!!!

I thought you were against both open carry and concealed carry of guns.

Congratulations!

I've nade no argument here. I have just poibt out facts and then I questioned you abiut your apparent change on the issue of open carry.

...but, of course, you know that. You're just trying to be "cute".

I'm just trying understand why the 'gungeoneers' are shocked by these nutty security types with their guns on private property, but they're just 'OK' with some kind of paranoid nutjob exhibiting his gun in a grocery store full of people.

Very strange that is, Luke Skywalker!

security guys in the woods at the test drilling site. I'm not really 'OK' with the guy open carrying in the grocery store. I'm just not automatically fearful in a situation like that. The mere presence of a gun does not send me into hysteria or wondering about my free speech rights.

(As you know, because I have posted it in several threads, I am not in favor of open carry in most cases.)

Edit to add: Open carrying a gun in a grocery store is one of the cases where I do not think it is a good idea.

And BTW- Faux naivety is blatantly obvious once you've seen it a few times...

friendlyicon: Let this be a useful reminder as to why the Left elements of the working class have always included people that bear arms.

Yessirree, a useful reminder etched in my mind now: gtac rogue militias are, or have become, a raison d'etre for, or with, um, left elements, of the working class, some, uh, were, or are, gun owners. Did I get it right?

icon: I'm simply reminding people that these types just don't care how deeply felt your principles are, and that your strength is not 'as the strength of ten because your heart is pure'.

Thanks for clearing it up some. Less muddy now. Never before thought some people could be like that (cough). Maybe we should tack on 'Beware Scott Walker Land' .

icon: While non-violence will always have a place in the political continuum, it will not work against those depraved persons, states or corporations like GTAC who simply don't give a shit about your principles.

Erk, lost me again. Nonviolence will not work against gtac type rogue militias? What are you suggesting? calling up the unorganized militia? pitting the unorganized vs the rogue? what a battle that would be. Uh, isn't this type thing what we have the police, the swat teams, the fbi, the state guards for?

Harry Turtledove illustrated this nicely in a story:

Comparing wwII vignettes with modern day militias? The warsaw uprising was thousands of trapped jewish inside a city ghetto fighting a few hundred better armed nazis as a last resort, simultaneously being surrounded by millions of nazis bent on their elimination at their leaders behest. So who's who comparatively? Are we, the left, the jewish? But we're not the small minority being persecuted as those warsaw jewish were. We are the large majority, with aforesaid fbi, police, at 'our' behest. I think a reference to the movie 'deliverance' woulda been a better approach, not turtledove. Imagine burt reynolds with his bow & arrow staring down at you, if only jon voight had had a can of mace.
GTac type militias should be a reason for stricter guncontrol, not a loosening thereof.
Paranoia, big destroya.

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