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gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 02:39 AM Dec 2013

number of cops killed with firearms lowest since 1887

The number of law-enforcement officers killed by (sic) firearms in 2013 fell to levels not seen since the 19th century, according to a report released Monday.

The annual report from the nonprofit National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund also found that deaths in the line of duty generally fell by 8 percent and were the fewest since 1959.

According to the report, 111 federal, state, local, tribal and territorial officers were killed in the line of duty nationwide this past year, compared to 121 in 2012.

Forty-six officers were killed in traffic related accidents, and 33 were killed by (sic) firearms.

The number of firearms deaths fell 33 percent in 2013 and was the lowest since 1887.


http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/2013-fewest-police-deaths-firearms-1887-21369151

I would like to see the numbers that include officers that are killed with weapons other than firearms and all weapons combined. Either way
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Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
1. No speculation as to why, as yet? Perhaps the downturn comes
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 10:20 AM
Dec 2013

from fewer encounters with thugs with guns. I can't help but think some criminals have gotten the message to not have a firearm, either while robbing or during domestic violence situations. Maybe the overwhelming show of force during an armed confrontation lessens police casualties.

 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
3. On The Flip Side...500 Innocent American's Killed by Cops
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 02:20 PM
Dec 2013

each year... police state - bullies with guns.

https://www.google.com/search?q=killed+by+police+in+2013+&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US fficial&client=firefox-a#q=innocent+americans+killed+by+police&rls=org.mozilla:en-US fficial&spell=1

Starboard Tack

(11,181 posts)
4. Not bad compared to past years. Maybe it's time to leave those guns at home.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 04:24 PM
Dec 2013

Interesting that in the UK (excluding Northern Ireland) only about 75 cops were shot dead since 1900.
Another 24 were stabbed to death during those 113 years. Such a violent country.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
7. The UK has 63 million people, roughly 20% of the US population
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 09:42 PM
Dec 2013

We had 111 killed in the US just this year alone and the UK had 75 over the course of 113 years, meaning well under one death per year. I would say that is pretty damn impressive for a country of 63 million, our rate of 111 however? Most countries would not be celebrating that number as if it were low. It may seem low by US standards, but I think most people would much rather be closer to the UKs rate.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
8. if you read the article, it points out that most were killed with cars.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 10:07 PM
Dec 2013

33 were killed with guns. 20 percent of those with their own guns. I don't know if the UK data includes auto accidents. I'm guessing not.
Wyoming has the highest firearms rate per capita in the US, but the number of Wyoming Highway Patrol officers killed in the line of duty since 1937 have been three, all with cars. In my hometown two officers died on duty, one in the 1950s and in 1978 or 1979. The later was shot by the city's public safety director inside of a cop car. The only game conservation officer killed was in 1913. Pretty good record given that they patrol large wilderness areas alone, and almost everyone the stop has a gun. Of course your state may vary.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
9. OK I missed that, but 33 in one year is still a lot more than less than one per year
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 10:24 PM
Dec 2013

Even when you figure in the per capita difference the UK rate is very impressive when compared to ours.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
10. true, but you can't really
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 10:49 PM
Dec 2013

compare two different societies with different problems. The causes, nature, and solutions will be entirely different. While gun control laws existed in some US states (the first federal level was 1927) before 1920 (mostly in the South) UK had no gun control laws (they have a unitary system, as opposed to our federal system) until 1920. Before then, very few UK criminals used guns. Why? It could be because to use a gun would be something a "square" would do and not something king bad ass would have, or criminals couldn't afford them.

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