Gun Control & RKBA

SecularMotion

(7,981 posts) Tue Mar 25, 2014, 06:49 AM Mar 2014

Grant Middle School workbook’s gun-rights description has some up in arms

A workbook used by students at Grant Middle School that has generated controversy among gun-rights supporters has no political agenda and won't be removed from the classroom, Springfield interim Superintendent Bob Hill said Monday.

Since the controversy surfaced online last week, Hill said, he's received a handful of calls and more than a dozen emails.

Gun-rights supporters claim students at Grant Middle School, 1800 W. Monroe St., are being taught that the Second Amendment permits only strictly regulated, registered gun ownership.

The concerns are based on a picture posted by a Grant parent on the “Illinois Gun Owners Rights” Facebook page about a workbook his child brought home. The posting was picked up by a number of websites and shared thousands of times online.

http://www.sj-r.com/article/20140324/News/140329660#ixzz2wyDuJSST

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Grant Middle School workbook’s gun-rights description has some up in arms (Original Post) SecularMotion Mar 2014 OP

why not print it as Duckhunter935 Mar 2014 #1

Cause who cares? Shivering Jemmy Mar 2014 #2

The right to a trial by jury Token Republican Mar 2014 #4

Those who don't want similar language regarding other rights. Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #6

Who cares if what we teach our kids is factual hack89 Mar 2014 #3

as it should gejohnston Mar 2014 #5

Good. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2014 #7

From the link in the OP -- Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2014 #8

US Code explicitly prohibits the creation of a national gun registry, per the 1986 GOPA. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #9

Which begs us to ask why the superintendent is so dead-set against correcting errors in fact. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2014 #10

Superintendant might be a states-rights proponent. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #13

The question is, what should parents of children exposed to these lies do. beevul Mar 2014 #11

Thread title is inaccurate. Change "description" to "deception". N/t beevul Mar 2014 #12

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)

1. why not print it as

Reply to SecularMotion (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 06:58 AM

Mar 2014

the 2nd reads exactly? Then no spin can be assumed. Words have meanings and that is not what the second amendment reads.

Shivering Jemmy

(900 posts)

2. Cause who cares?

Reply to Duckhunter935 (Reply #1)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 07:55 AM

Mar 2014

Token Republican

(242 posts)

4. The right to a trial by jury

Reply to Shivering Jemmy (Reply #2)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 08:22 AM

Mar 2014

is guaranteed by the 6th the US Constitution unless the government calls the defendant a terrorist.

The right to free speech is guaranteed by the first amendment provided the government gives permission for the speech.

The right to due process under the 5th amendment is guaranteed unless the accused is placed on a secret government list.

Maybe you support the above but people like me don't.

I care.

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)

6. Those who don't want similar language regarding other rights.

Reply to Shivering Jemmy (Reply #2)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 10:16 AM

Mar 2014

hack89

(39,171 posts)

3. Who cares if what we teach our kids is factual

Reply to SecularMotion (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 08:09 AM

Mar 2014

as long as it fits our agenda?

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)

5. as it should

Reply to SecularMotion (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 10:08 AM

Mar 2014

giving kids false information is indoctrination, not education.

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)

7. Good.

Reply to SecularMotion (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 11:38 AM

Mar 2014

Teaching a blatantly incorrect interpretation of the amendment is irresponsible and a disservice to students.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)

8. From the link in the OP --

Reply to SecularMotion (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 04:20 PM

Mar 2014

“This amendment states that people have the right to certain weapons, providing that they register them and have not been in prison. The founding fathers included the amendment to prevent the United States from acting like the British who had tried to take weapons away from the colonists.”

Now, I can agree to the second sentence but how could anyone -- pro or anti 2A -- come to the conclusion expressed by the first sentence? Where does the 2A even come close to mentioning a registration requirement or not having been in prison?

Let's take the superintendent at his word and assume no agenda is intended: It's still factually incorrect.