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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 10:43 AM Apr 2014

5 Ways Gun Safety Advocates Are Using The NRA’s Playbook Against It

One year after Congress failed to pass a background check bill that 90 percent of Americans supported, groups to combat the National Rifle Association are ratcheting up their financial investment, and pledging to take the gun lobby head on like never before.

“Because of Washington’s failure, we are beginning the next phase in the fight,” said John Feinblatt, president of the newly launched Everytown for Gun Safety funded with $50 million from Michael R. Bloomberg. Added an Everytown press release: “This means continuing to press for change in Washington and moving beyond Congress to bring the fight for common-sense gun policies to state capitols, corporate boards, and state and federal elections – fields of play formerly occupied almost solely by the gun lobby.”

And a year after former Arizona congresswoman Gabby Giffords declared, “Mark my words: if we cannot make our communities safer with the Congress we have now, we will use every means available to make sure we have a different Congress, one that puts communities’ interests ahead of the gun lobby’s,” her political action committee is fundraising at a rate of $2.5 million in just three months.

The gun violence prevention movement won some major state battles over the past year, but so, too, has the gun lobby, which remains a menacing check on forward movement. As the next generation of gun safety activists aims increasingly to battle their opponents head on, here are some key tactics from the NRA’s playbook that they are just starting to take up:

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/04/17/3427522/five-ways-gun-violence-advocates-are-taking-up-the-nra-playbook/
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5 Ways Gun Safety Advocates Are Using The NRA’s Playbook Against It (Original Post) SecularMotion Apr 2014 OP
Until they can prove their ability to mobilize voters hack89 Apr 2014 #1
Bloomberg mobilized plenty of voters in Colorado. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #2
Good point. LoL nt hack89 Apr 2014 #4
Never play another man's game. You'll lose every time. nt rrneck Apr 2014 #3
Excellent advice discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2014 #23
So is Gifford a member of Everytown? Eleanors38 Apr 2014 #5
"Gun Safety Advocates" Lizzie Poppet Apr 2014 #6
Meanwhile, the OP defends people who express violent, eliminationist sentiments. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #8
You're a saint, Nuclear Unicorn SecularMotion Apr 2014 #9
I know but I try to temper all this fabulous awesomeness with just a pinch of humility. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #10
And you do a fine job of it, a fine job. n/t oneshooter Apr 2014 #11
Favorite group: Gun Control & RKBA, 465 posts in the last 90 days (60% of total posts) Duckhunter935 Apr 2014 #7
Is that anything like abortion safety advocates? The Straight Story Apr 2014 #12
So here was my response in the other forum, then I got banned TupperHappy Apr 2014 #13
Circular Motion strikes again!!! n/t oneshooter Apr 2014 #14
join the club Duckhunter935 Apr 2014 #15
Thanks, that reminds me I have some spring cleaning to do. SecularMotion Apr 2014 #16
yeah, have at it Duckhunter935 Apr 2014 #17
Careful blueridge3210 Apr 2014 #18
I know Duckhunter935 Apr 2014 #19
I can answer that discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2014 #21
Thanks Duckhunter935 Apr 2014 #22
If my count is right, there are only 4 regular posters there, including Circular. n/t oneshooter Apr 2014 #20

hack89

(39,171 posts)
1. Until they can prove their ability to mobilize voters
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 10:57 AM
Apr 2014

they are nothing more than a group transferring money from a 1%'r (Bloomberg) to politicians.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
2. Bloomberg mobilized plenty of voters in Colorado.
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 11:21 AM
Apr 2014

And by gumption they elected 2 Republicans and got a third Democrat to resign.

I bet even the NRA can't brag about percentages like that.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
5. So is Gifford a member of Everytown?
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 02:46 PM
Apr 2014

Or was her quote appropriated by that group, or Thinkprogress? Seems unclear.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
8. Meanwhile, the OP defends people who express violent, eliminationist sentiments.
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 06:15 PM
Apr 2014

I guess "safety" is only for those who think the right way.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
10. I know but I try to temper all this fabulous awesomeness with just a pinch of humility.
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 08:31 PM
Apr 2014

It ain't easy; believe you, me!

The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
12. Is that anything like abortion safety advocates?
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 10:27 PM
Apr 2014

You know, those fine folks who just want to make sure the procedure is safe (by banning it basically)?

Basically the same minded folks - preach that it is for x when it is for y and hope people are dumb enough to believe you.

Yeah, progressives don't.

TupperHappy

(166 posts)
13. So here was my response in the other forum, then I got banned
Sat Apr 19, 2014, 11:15 PM
Apr 2014

Support for more gun control by the vast majority of the public


...is a mile wide and an inch deep. Of course you will get 90% in support of background checks. But the devil is always in the details. That's why you haven't seen anywhere near the success you thought you would in getting the banner's radical anti-Constitution agenda passed.

I also appreciate the finger-snap in Billionaire Bloomberg's face over the loss of the Facebook pages. I haven't checked whether he's been able to wrest them away from the grassroots effort to define them from a pro-gun viewpoint. Maybe he should just look in the ashtray of his car for a few more millions and console himself with that.



And because of this post, I guess someone had a sad cause when I wanted to respond to a follow-up, heavens to murgatroid, I discovered I was banned from the group.

Le sigh.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
15. join the club
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 08:59 AM
Apr 2014

They are quick over at bansalot, have to give them that. They do not want any discussion, they want an echo chamber. That is why it is almost a dead group with very little posting. Only like 5 users can now post over there.

Number Blocked members
1 hack89
2 Eleanors38
3 Crepuscular
4 Bay Boy
5 ManiacJoe
6 bossy22
7 Straw Man
8 oneshooter
9 Duckhunter935
10 friendly_iconoclast
11 rrneck
12 customerserviceguy
13 ProgressiveProfessor
14 sarisataka
15 appal_jack
16 Travis_0004
17 geckosfeet
18 Hangingon
19 NYC_SKP
20 Jenoch
21 spin
22 shedevil69taz
23 SoutherDem
24 Ranchemp.
25 Lurks Often
26 proudretiredvet
27 ileus
28 Recursion
29 SQUEE
30 MO_Moderate
31 S_B_Jackson
32 DRAEGER
33 HALO141
34 Jgarrick
35 Valakut
36 arst1
37 betterdays
38 Nuclear Unicorn
39 TupperHappy


The funny thing is SecularMotion is a host over there but this is his favorite group, who knew?

 

SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
16. Thanks, that reminds me I have some spring cleaning to do.
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 09:47 AM
Apr 2014

I see several names of members who have been banned from DU altogether after being blocked from GCRA.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
17. yeah, have at it
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 10:03 AM
Apr 2014

This group could do the same with one of the TWO that have been blocked.

I am glad you made this your favorite group. Must get kind of lonely over there at times I would think. I see you are up to 61% here for your total posts. Good job at increasing. Just curious, what is the percentage of posting in the group you host?


Number of posts: 4,643
Number of posts, last 90 days: 783
Favorite forum: General Discussion, 158 posts in the last 90 days (20% of total posts)
Favorite group: Gun Control & RKBA, 476 posts in the last 90 days (61% of total posts)
Last post: Sun Apr 20, 2014, 08:47 AM

Hosting
Gun Control Reform Activism

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,479 posts)
21. I can answer that
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 10:41 AM
Apr 2014

A few seconds of algebra shows:
33 posts in GCRA (~4% of 783 posts in the last 90 days)

Lest you judge harshly, remember that sometimes hosting (or gun control) isn't always about participation (or guns,) it's about control.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
22. Thanks
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 11:34 AM
Apr 2014

I understand completely, I just find it interesting he posts in the opposite group. This is unlike our fine host here.

Favorite forum: General Discussion, 36 posts in the last 90 days (28% of total posts)
Favorite group: Gun Control & RKBA, 56 posts in the last 90 days (43% of total posts)



At least he is allowed to post here. It does stimulate discussion and I wish he would participate more than just starting an OP by cutting and pasting with no comment on the story.
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