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Logical

(22,457 posts)
Thu May 15, 2014, 09:51 PM May 2014

How 3-D Printed Guns Evolved Into Serious Weapons in Just One Year

I personally have no issues with printed guns no more than I have issues with people making guns. Interesting story.


A burgeoning subculture of 3-D printed gun enthusiasts dreams of the day when a lethal firearm can be downloaded or copied by anyone, anywhere, as easily as a pirated episode of Game of Thrones. But the 27-year-old Japanese man arrested last week for allegedly owning illegal 3-D printed firearms did more than simply download and print other enthusiasts’ designs. He appears to have created some of his own.

Among the half-dozen plastic guns seized from Yoshitomo Imura’s home in Kawasaki was a revolver designed to fire six .38-caliber bullets–five more than the Liberator printed pistol that inspired Imura’s experiments. He called it the ZigZag, after its ratcheted barrel modeled on the German Mauser Zig-Zag. In a video he posted online six months ago, Imura assembles the handgun from plastic 3-D printed pieces, a few metal pins, screws and rubber bands, then test fires it with blanks.

“Freedom of armaments to all people!!” he writes in the video’s description. “A gun makes power equal!!”

It’s been a full year since I watched the radical libertarian group Defense Distributed test fire the Liberator, the first fully printable gun, for the first time. Imura is one of a growing number of digital gunsmiths who saw the potential of that controversial breakthrough and have strived to improve upon the Liberator’s clunky, single-shot design. Motivated by a mix of libertarianism, gun rights advocacy and open-source experimentation, their innovations include rifles, derringers, multi-round handguns and the components needed to assemble semi-automatic weapons. Dozens of other designs are waiting to be tested.

Much more at: http://www.wired.com/2014/05/3d-printed-guns/

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How 3-D Printed Guns Evolved Into Serious Weapons in Just One Year (Original Post) Logical May 2014 OP
Is it just me? blueridge3210 May 2014 #1
I agree. And most of these people are doing it out of hackers curiosity. nt Logical May 2014 #2
Now that you mention it -- Nuclear Unicorn May 2014 #7
Have there been any 3D printed, plastic guns Jenoch May 2014 #3
It'll be interesting to see how the gun manufacturers respons to 3D guns that fire real rounds. Hoppy May 2014 #4
Its still too soon to tell TupperHappy May 2014 #6
Fully operational 3D printed guns have already been made. BigAlanMac May 2014 #5
I'm more impressed they're using Inconel, actually sir pball May 2014 #8
 

blueridge3210

(1,401 posts)
1. Is it just me?
Thu May 15, 2014, 09:58 PM
May 2014

Or does all of this angst over 3D printed guns remind anyone of the uproar over Napster and other P2P sharing networks. The industry eventually learned to adapt as there was no putting the genie back in the bottle; artists had the ability to receive direct compensation for their work instead of having to rely on record studios to get their product to the consumer. No more "Turtles" or "Record Bar"; but we don't deliver ice by wagon to households anymore either.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
7. Now that you mention it --
Fri May 16, 2014, 03:49 PM
May 2014

Many 2A detractors complain that gun manufacturers aren't principled defenders of the 2nd Amendment but are only in it for profit. 3D printed guns should satisfy them on that point, right?

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
3. Have there been any 3D printed, plastic guns
Thu May 15, 2014, 10:33 PM
May 2014

made that have the ability to be fired using live rounds multiple times? So far the angst over the danger 3D gun proliferation seems to be more hysteria rather than about the facts.

Pretty soon the anti-RKBA folks will be wanting to ban rabbit's feet.

 

Hoppy

(3,595 posts)
4. It'll be interesting to see how the gun manufacturers respons to 3D guns that fire real rounds.
Thu May 15, 2014, 11:14 PM
May 2014

This will cut into their profits. Will they try to promote the idea that the Second Amendment applies only to store bought guns made by real American craftsmen?

TupperHappy

(166 posts)
6. Its still too soon to tell
Fri May 16, 2014, 10:43 AM
May 2014

Right now the only 3D guns are one off productions, there is yet any kind of capability for mass production of these things.

The only time gun manufacturers will have to worry is when the production costs go down, mass production becomes feasible and the reliability goes up.

Still, if they are savvy enough, they could offer official licensed patterns for download, along with a package for purchase of the few items that are still required to be manufactured by them (springs for one, I don't yet see how 3D printing can reliably create springs, but I may be wrong).

 

BigAlanMac

(59 posts)
5. Fully operational 3D printed guns have already been made.
Fri May 16, 2014, 07:31 AM
May 2014

And it was a 1911 style .45 semiautomatic.

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World’s 2nd 3D Printed Metal Gun

Solid Concepts announces the successful creation of the world’s second 3D printed metal gun. Our second iteration is composed entirely of Inconel 625, a material that is stronger than Stainless Steel (and a bit heavier) save for the springs which were not 3D Printed. The gun is once again composed of thirty-four 3D Printed components. Our second gun will be stress relieved and post processing will be by hand once again.

Inconel 625 is a harder, stronger alloy than 17-4 Stainless Steel. We modified the geometry for this second iteration to incorporate different tolerances in order to make hand finishing sufficiently easier. With our first prototype, we had to hand sand to perfect a few tolerances, but our tweaks to the design should remove the need for such sanding. Our first gun is now up to 1,000+ rounds.
We’re thoroughly enjoying this research-development-improvement process for an internal project. The implications of its success for our customers’ future projects – from aerospace to medical – are very uplifting! Thanks to our followers for their support and enthusiasm, it has been quite the ride.

sir pball

(4,743 posts)
8. I'm more impressed they're using Inconel, actually
Sat May 17, 2014, 09:54 AM
May 2014

That stuff is pretty much the Holy Grail of firearm materials. It's basically a supermetal, used in turbine blades and bearings, nuclear reactors, race car engines and freakin' fusion reactors. It can withstand far higher temperatures than any steel; it would be a perfect barrel material if it weren't prohibitively difficult to machine. A 1911 made entirely out of it could be fired until the whole thing was glowing red and probably still function perfectly.

If these guys can do this on a production scale, I see some very lucrative military contracts for machine gun tubes in their future.

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