Gun Control & RKBA

ileus

(15,396 posts) Tue Dec 30, 2014, 07:57 PM Dec 2014

Always a proper holster...always

http://news.yahoo.com/woman-shot-killed-walmart-idaho-her-toddler-reports-204113892.html

A woman was accidentally shot and killed at a Walmart store in northern Idaho on Tuesday when her 2-year-old son pulled a loaded handgun from her purse that then went off, a county sheriff said.

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While her heart was in the right place, her knowledge was severely lacking. If you're going to purse carry please spend the cash to buy a proper purse. Safety first, getting shot by your two year old never...

1. Buy the proper handgun carrier (purse, holster, ect...)
2. Maintain control of your CC device at all times, be aware at all times.
3. Stay safe and carry on.

Stories like these are the reason I laugh at the "My safety is between my ears folks." Sure this woman thought she was doing the right thing, but in reality it was a costly mistake. If you're going to carry make sure you're the only one that can access your firearm unless you hand it over.

This is also one of the reasons I like that long DA pull of my LCP, CZ or P220, or the manual safety on my striker fired shield. Train Train Train and you won't have to worry about getting glocked like this woman probably did. Of course she may have had a DAO revolver like my wife carries.

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Always a proper holster...always (Original Post) ileus Dec 2014 OP

Good advice! Training, planning, practice, reflection, proper equipment are not things petronius Dec 2014 #1

She, her husband, her father-in-law and many others thought she had and used a proper holster. russ1943 Dec 2014 #2

And your answer to this tragedy is to melt down all firearms into rebar. oneshooter Dec 2014 #3

Military and police own 4 million guns, civilians over 300 million, gotta start with the civilian Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #4

nice to be able to post an opinion Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #5

Running away from freedom is pretty sad discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2015 #14

and still no answer Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #15

Yeah? And who's going to collect them? You? GGJohn Jan 2015 #9

Sure he will nt Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #11

Now he's in another thread arguing for England style hate speech laws. GGJohn Jan 2015 #12

Yes, and he runs away Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #13

Yep, a proper holster Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #6

If you're going to carry, carry. Brickbat Jan 2015 #7

Females aren't going to carry... ileus Jan 2015 #8

The problem isn't carrying in a purse. Straw Man Jan 2015 #10

petronius

(26,602 posts)

1. Good advice! Training, planning, practice, reflection, proper equipment are not things

Reply to ileus (Original post)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 08:48 PM

Dec 2014

to skimp on or take for granted when safety is (among) the goal(s)...

russ1943

(618 posts)

2. She, her husband, her father-in-law and many others thought she had and used a proper holster.

Reply to ileus (Original post)

Wed Dec 31, 2014, 09:47 PM

Dec 2014

December 31, 2014. 9 mm gun that toddler used to shoot mom was in purse’s holster ……“She was not an irresponsible mother, who just said, ‘Oh, I want a gun’ and went to the gun store and tossed it loosely into her purse.’ The purse was designed with a built-in holster,” said Terry Rutledge, her father-in-law. Veronica Rutledge, 29, was a hunter and target shooter, who had a concealed weapons permit. The purse with the holster was a Christmas gift from her husband, Colt.

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2014/dec/31/gun-toddler-used-shot-mom-was-purses-holster/

Colt, Colt? her husband's name is Colt?

oneshooter

(8,614 posts)

3. And your answer to this tragedy is to melt down all firearms into rebar.

Reply to russ1943 (Reply #2)

Wed Dec 31, 2014, 10:31 PM

Dec 2014

Except those owned by the government.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)

4. Military and police own 4 million guns, civilians over 300 million, gotta start with the civilian

Reply to oneshooter (Reply #3)

Thu Jan 1, 2015, 03:23 PM

Jan 2015

melting first, obviously. There is a great need for rebar, way more than the need for 300 million killing machines.

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)

5. nice to be able to post an opinion

Reply to Fred Sanders (Reply #4)

Thu Jan 1, 2015, 06:22 PM

Jan 2015

over here. You should say thank you to the hosts.

On this we will disagree. I just want to know how you would get this accomplished?

Of course you ran away from this post, care to provide an answer?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=158035
I asked you what comments you were talking about from me.

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,479 posts)

14. Running away from freedom is pretty sad

Reply to Duckhunter935 (Reply #5)

Fri Jan 2, 2015, 01:27 PM

Jan 2015

Alan Dershowitz: "Foolish liberals who are trying to read the Second Amendment out of the Constitution by claiming it's not an individual right or that it's too much of a public safety hazard, don't see the danger in the big picture. They're courting disaster by encouraging others to use the same means to eliminate portions of the Constitution they don't like."

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)

15. and still no answer

Reply to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #14)

Fri Jan 2, 2015, 01:35 PM

Jan 2015

am I surprised, no

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)

9. Yeah? And who's going to collect them? You?

Reply to Fred Sanders (Reply #4)

Thu Jan 1, 2015, 09:41 PM

Jan 2015

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)

11. Sure he will nt

Reply to GGJohn (Reply #9)

Fri Jan 2, 2015, 12:50 PM

Jan 2015

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)

12. Now he's in another thread arguing for England style hate speech laws.

Reply to Duckhunter935 (Reply #11)

Fri Jan 2, 2015, 12:52 PM

Jan 2015

Seems he's more of an authoritarian in the mold of Bloomberg.

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)

13. Yes, and he runs away

Reply to GGJohn (Reply #12)

Fri Jan 2, 2015, 01:00 PM

Jan 2015

when confronted with one of his statements accusing me of things

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)

6. Yep, a proper holster

Reply to ileus (Original post)

Thu Jan 1, 2015, 06:26 PM

Jan 2015

Purse if used for CC should never leave your body. Never did like the Glock type safety and prefer to keep a round out of the chamber and have a traditional safety like my Ruger or 1911 have. I do not carry but have the license if I ever decide too.

Although these incidents are very rare, 90 million firearms owners, one is too many if proper safety and training would prevent it.

The ironic thing is the "gun safety" organizations do nothing in this area at all.

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)

7. If you're going to carry, carry.

Reply to ileus (Original post)

Thu Jan 1, 2015, 07:29 PM

Jan 2015

Don't tote. Don't sling. Carry.

ileus

(15,396 posts)

8. Females aren't going to carry...

Reply to Brickbat (Reply #7)

Thu Jan 1, 2015, 09:09 PM

Jan 2015

They don't wear belts. They don't wear pants 2x to large. They're not going to put 20 ounces in a front pocket.

That only leaves the beloved purse...

I did buy my wife a kydex holster for Christmas but I'm sure it's only action will be at the range. Maybe fishing or hiking...maybe...probably not.

Straw Man

(6,625 posts)

10. The problem isn't carrying in a purse.

Reply to ileus (Reply #8)

Fri Jan 2, 2015, 03:32 AM

Jan 2015

The problem is leaving the purse unattended.

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