Gun Control & RKBA
Related: About this forum"In Illinois, concealed carry of guns has quiet first year; expansion sought"
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-concealed-carry-one-year-met-20150203-story.html#page=1Shock and amazement, the blood isn't running in the streets of Illinois and no one has been shot over a parking space the Chicago Tribune discovers!
"Gun advocates push to expand concealed carry in Illinois after quiet first year."
"Keith Hearn was getting out of his car in front of his home in Chicago's South Shore neighborhood when police pulled up and told him he had committed a minor traffic offense.
Hearn, 34, has a concealed-carry license and said he voluntarily told the officers he had a handgun on him. Nonetheless, he said officers arrested him and took him to their station, claiming his gun was partly showing. After checking, he said, police found the concealed-carry law allows a gun to be "mostly" concealed, and let him go without charges.
I was disgusted," Hearn said. "Why was I arrested, handcuffed in front of my neighborhood, when I didn't break any laws?"
Hearn is among about 92,000 people who got licenses to carry a hidden gun in public last year in Illinois the last state in the union to legalize "concealed carry," as it's called. Since it went into effect more than a year ago, the law has prompted neither the rash of shootings that opponents feared, nor a wave of crimes prevented through the intervention of armed citizens.
Instead, there are ongoing disputes over who should be allowed to carry a gun, and where. Those battles are being played out in the courts and occasionally, on the streets, as in Hearn's account, which Chicago police would not comment on or confirm."
Close to 92,000 permits issued in 2014 and the Trib was only able to come up with 3 "problems" with no permit revocations listed. If it wasn't so expensive for the training, 16 hours plus live fire qualification and the permits are $150 for in-state and $300 for out of state, ther'd probably be a lot more. Plus there are no ranges in Chicago for qualification accessible by public transportation that people can get to.
Our "Downstate Dems" are now pushing to loosen some of the restrictions they gave the hand wringers in Chicago to get it passed, now that they have some actual experience under their belt.
ileus
(15,396 posts)or not...
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)it's the sound of the gun grabbers' hearts breaking.
krispos42
(49,445 posts)... the reality does not live up to the moral panic and pompous speeches and dire warnings.
DonP
(6,185 posts)About 5 years ago my daughter (Chicago Public School Teacher) and I, along with a bunch of her teacher friends, were sitting at my kitchen table talking about how in a few years same sex marriage and concealed carry would both be non-events and be mainstream accepted practice.
We're getting pretty close now, not quite there, but close.
After all the "Sturm und Drang" life goes on.
Of course we still have the usual suspects, that insist on conflating criminal gun use with law abiding concealed carry. But like the man said, You can't fix stupid.
machI
(1,285 posts)Sounds like a business opportunity to me.
DonP
(6,185 posts)Rahm Emanuel and the city council have ruled that any gun shop or range must be at least 1000 feet from any school, church or day care center. That rules out all but a few industrial sites on the far south and west sides.
They have also passed some other ridiculous laws to keep gun stores and shooting ranges out of the city and county.
So far they have lost several court cases like Ezell v. Chicago, in addition to the original McDonald v. Chicago case and run up a $3.2 million legal bill ... so far ... on the range cases alone.
The appellate court judge ordered them to "stop trying to be too cute by half" and Rahm asked for 6 months to rewrite the rules. They have done nothing now for 5 months. It's a stalling tactic and the citizens wind up paying the bill while Rahm closed 16 public schools and tried to bust the teachers union. Then he opens a bunch of charter schools owned by his big donors.
He's a real frickin' hero for gun control fans.
* Carrying While Black.
"I was disgusted," Hearn said. "Why was I arrested, handcuffed in front of my neighborhood, when I didn't break any laws?"