Good thing that the NRA defends the right of idiots to carry a gun everywhere. Never know when a gun nut might have to defend his/her right to a parking space.

Does that mean you and everyone else that supports strict gun control are guilty of attempted murder by extension too?

A real nasty asshole killed them.

...that means that he had ready access to his guns, regardless of concealed-carry status. True?

NC requires either a written permission slip from your local sheriff, or a carry license (Federal background check, state background check, mental health records check, class on self-defense law, live fire evaluation on a shooting range) to so much as purchase a handgun, regardless of whether it is a private sale or from a licensed dealer.

...but you can still buy machine guns and tanks at a gun show right?

I know because my sister told me so.

Like most of the other "gun control experts" we have here she's never been to a gun show in her life but she "knows".

Just find the right table, wink and nod at the guy the right way and for $5 you can get a kit to convert any AR or AK to full auto. She assured me they are under the table at every gun show. Might be $10 now?

Surprisingly, she had no interest in actually going with me to a gun show to prove her point and so she could alert the police to the crimes being committed.

Or ... you can just go to Youtube for detailed instructions on using a paper clip to go full auto, just like this one

I am going to give that a shot for my next range trip.

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No, the Cause Of Death will be listed as Gunshot Wound(s). The gun made it much easier for the bigot to kill other people when he wanted to.

Good grief, the gun make it easier, the permit had nothing to do with it.

The guns aren't goin' anywhere, baby.

Madison had a zinger back in the day, check it out:

We're working it out, we just need to do the things that we need to do to keep guns out of the wrong hands.

We'll get there, I'm confident!

up to and including President Obama.

I would like, however, to point out that the arguably most restrictive state, California, has first and foremost in it's Constitution, the Civil Right to self defense and defense of property:

The religion angle was speculation. While Hicks is a member of Atheists for Equality, and has made statements about what he describes as radical Christianity and Islam (aka Fundies), the the dispute had nothing to do with religion according to police. It was an ongoing issue over a parking space.

May have taken you a couple of days, but we all had confidence that you'd finally find somebody else's cartoon to express yourself so poignantly.

1. They are intended to promote an emotional response, and theirs is an emotionally based
cause.

2. You can't really 'rebut' a cartoon, and simply reposting one without comment
ensures that their ...work... won't end up here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/11729858

for the amusement and edification of all.

3. It's also a great way to reassure themselves that all the cool kids agree with them...

When a controller can argue neither the facts or the law, let's post a cartoon that appeals to emotion.

Straight from the VPC playbook; business as usual.

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They has more than ties to the community, the girls father was a well known psychiatrist, the children in higher learning, dentistry and humanitarian aide.
.........

Dad says victims talked about 'hateful' neighbor

The father of the slain women, Mohammed Abu-Salha, however, said his older daughter told him several times that she was scared by a "condescending" neighbor who had come more than once to their doorstep with a gun in his waistband.

"They felt he was hateful, and she used that word," Mohammed Abu-Salha said. "She said, 'Daddy, we feel he hates us for who we are and how we look.' And our daughters dressed in the Muslim attire."

Barakat's sister, Dr. Suzanne Barakat, called on authorities to investigate "these senseless and heinous murders as a hate crime."

Read more at http://www.wral.com/questions-surround-motive-in-muslim-students-shooting-deaths/14439969/#jpXAdJdZdk6a2ZMm.99

A recent change in the state allows a brief display of a legally concealed firearm such as might happen when my jacket is blown back by the wind in a parking lot.

However if I pull my jacket back to intimidate a person by revealing that I am armed, I can get into a world of trouble with the local police. I'm pretty sure the police would call it brandishing unless I had a damn good reason for showing it (like I was being attacked by someone who intends to seriously injure or kill me.)

I know some instructors in concealed weapons permit classes told their students never to show their handguns to stop an attack but to draw it and shoot the attacker. One said, "If you pull your handgun it better end up smoking." However that was before the new law passed.

Either way, how does that add to the story?

Having a CWP places restrictions on the carrier and requires him to meet more requirements to carry the gun.

The story as reports shows no relevancy to an CWP since they are not required to own a handgun.

Remember all those...."Religion is the devil" threads you normally read over at DU.


I suppose this is the, exception rather than the rule with this Atheist and CC.

that doesn't mean he had one. It also says he has had mental health issues, but mental health checks are part of the NC CCW application process. It is possible that the lawyer confused a CCW with a purchase permit, which NC enacted in 1919.

Hicks may very well have had a CCW permit-then again, this might be another example of:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=118&topic_id=285630

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=5456

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=118x270147

Time will tell...

Ben ezra, post 28 above: A while back, the Brady Campaign ranked NC as 13th strictest in the nation, or somesuch. NC requires either a written permission slip from your local sheriff, or a carry license (Federal background check, state background check, mental health records check, class on self-defense law, live fire evaluation on a shooting range) to so much as purchase a handgun, regardless of whether it is a private sale or from a licensed dealer.

It's fairly apparent Ezra is trying to portray brady campaign as endorsing north Carolina as at least leaning towards gun control; but brady campaign gave north Carolina an F for 2013 & 2014, the rest of the story:

Among other things, North Carolina requires all handgun purchasers to first obtain a license, after undergoing a background check. However, North Carolina does not:
•Require a person to undergo a background check prior to purchasing a long gun from an unlicensed seller;
•Prohibit the transfer or possession of assault weapons, 50 caliber rifles, or large capacity ammunition magazines;
•License or significantly regulate firearms dealers;
•Limit the number of firearms that may be purchased at one time;
•Require firearm owners to report lost or stolen firearms;
•Regulate unsafe handguns;
•Regulate ammunition sales;
•Allow local governments to regulate firearms or ammunition; or
•Provide local law enforcement with discretion to deny a license to carry firearms.

In 2010, North Carolina had the 20th highest number of gun deaths per capita among the states. North Carolina had the 20th highest rate of crime gun exports among the states in 2009–meaning that crime guns originally sold in North Carolina were recovered after being used in crimes in other states at the 20th highest rate among the states.
http://smartgunlaws.org/north-carolina-state-law-summary/
http://smartgunlaws.org/2013-state-scorecard-why-gun-laws-matter/