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DonP

(6,185 posts)
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 01:30 PM Jul 2015

"U.S. High Schools Embrace Shooting as Hot New Sport"

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-07-09/making-guns-cool-high-schools-embrace-shooting-as-hot-new-sport

"The giddy 13-year-olds oohed and aahed as they stared down the black shotgun barrels and aimed at clay targets they imagined whizzing through the air.

“You guys are welcome to test any of these out,” said Dusty Minke, a sales agent for Browning, as the teens elbowed each other for spots at his kiosk. “We’ve actually had a couple of kids who did so good on the test range that they were like, ‘Can I use this for my rounds?’ We let ‘em, and their scores went up -- and they’ll hopefully go and buy one.”

It was day six of the Minnesota State High School Clay Target League championship, the world’s biggest shooting-sport event. Minke could see potential customers in every direction, kids as young as 11 who’d tumbled out of their parents’ cars in camouflage T-shirts beginning at 7 a.m.

In 2009, the contest’s first year, it drew 30 shooters. In June there were 5,134, more than 20,000 spectators and sponsors including Benelli Armi SpA and SKB Shotguns. Trap shooting is the fastest-growing sport in Minnesota high schools, and was recently introduced in neighboring Wisconsin and North Dakota. While it may make anti-gun activists uneasy, it’s a boon for manufacturers and retailers that have stoked its growth.

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This year, 9,245 schoolchildren in Minnesota, Wisconsin and North Dakota participated; trap’s so popular in Minnesota that the legislature appropriated $2 million for the expansion of gun ranges, where the kids compete. Next year, schools in Arizona, South Dakota, Illinois and Kansas will also host teams. Middle-schoolers can also join high-school squads."

From the Bloomberg News Service no less.

Just one more example of how there are no new gun owners out there.
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"U.S. High Schools Embrace Shooting as Hot New Sport" (Original Post) DonP Jul 2015 OP
Saw this happen at our high school, which just got a trap team. Most of the kids already had Brickbat Jul 2015 #1
"it’s a boon for manufacturers and retailers that have stoked its growth." Human101948 Jul 2015 #2
First things first. Let have a little fun first. nt hack89 Jul 2015 #4
Wow. beevul Jul 2015 #5
Do let us know when you're appointed to SCOTUS, until then your opinion matters .... DonP Jul 2015 #8
We were never supposed to maintain a large standing army in peacetime the band leader Jul 2015 #10
What does being on a high school rifle team have to do with a militia? ileus Jul 2015 #11
"These kids should be drilling and marching with their militia" Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #12
What school sport is NOT a boon for manufacturers and retailers? nt JustABozoOnThisBus Jul 2015 #17
Shooting is an Olympic Sport PeoViejo Jul 2015 #3
Saw this on the news this morning. Hangingon Jul 2015 #6
Some colleges are even offering scholarships for trap & skeet shooters Lurks Often Jul 2015 #7
This is how we build tomorrows shooters...it's nice to see kids having fun ileus Jul 2015 #9
I wonder how much of this is being driven by girls? Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #13
Some of the top competitive shooters now are women DonP Jul 2015 #14
I have always taken the rise of modern feminism (late 50s-up) seriously... Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #15
I'd hope it's about half ... JustABozoOnThisBus Jul 2015 #16
The various 3-gun competitions are stirring the shooting sports pot a good deal, Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #18
Everything old is new again. AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #19
Yup, more young people that will "never buy a new gun" according to the "experts" LoL N/T DonP Jul 2015 #20
Nothing wrong with this. LP2K12 Jul 2015 #21

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
1. Saw this happen at our high school, which just got a trap team. Most of the kids already had
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 01:40 PM
Jul 2015

experience shooting (it's a rural area) but I think there may have been a couple of beginners.

ETA: I think it's a great idea, and the kids love it. They had a lot of success.

 

Human101948

(3,457 posts)
2. "it’s a boon for manufacturers and retailers that have stoked its growth."
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 01:41 PM
Jul 2015

That's what it's all about. These kids should be drilling and marching with their militia, as the Second Amendment was intended.

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
5. Wow.
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 02:05 PM
Jul 2015
marching with their militia, as the Second Amendment was intended.


Wow.

Ok. its time for a little constitution/bill of rights 101.

There are two documents at the heart of this.

The first is the constitution. The constitution is essentially a document of authorization, granting congress and/or government, certain powers. Congress IS actually granted certain powers regarding 'the militia', and if they 'intended' anything regarding the militia, that is where they most certainly would have said so (authorized it).

The second document, the one actually at issue here, is the Bill of Rights. The Bill of Rights, is essentially a governmental "hands off" list. 'Congress shall make no law...", and so on. You can argue that no right is absolute, but that's beside the point. It is crystal clear, and no reasonable argument to the contrary can be made, that the intent of the bill of rights is to restrain exercise of power by government.

It very plainly says so in the preamble to the bill of rights itself, penned by the framers themselves:

THE Conventions of a number of the States having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added: And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government, will best insure the beneficent ends of its institution

http://www.billofrights.org/

In short, if you're reading a restriction on government power contained within the bill of rights, as a blessing for government to restrict rights of people, you're reading it completely horribly and perhaps even deliberately wrong. And don't bother with the typical 'rw interpretation' BS. I'm interpreting the amendment in line with the preamble to the bill of rights itself, and theres nothing 'right wing' about that.




 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
8. Do let us know when you're appointed to SCOTUS, until then your opinion matters ....
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 03:47 PM
Jul 2015

... about as much as that odd guy mumbling to himself waiting for the 151 bus and is just as wrong.

Try to keep up with court decisions in the past two decades.

 

the band leader

(139 posts)
10. We were never supposed to maintain a large standing army in peacetime
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 05:29 AM
Jul 2015

As it was known to be a threat to liberty and to the constitution itself. So pretty much every able bodied man was to possess arms suitable for war and the knowledge to use them so that they might be "called up" up in times of need. That is what is meant by "a well regulated being necessary to the security of a free state". This meaning and intent is further entrenched in many state constitutions. In Ohio, for example, our constitution reads:

The people have the right to bear arms for their defense and security; but standing armies, in time of peace, are dangerous to liberty, and shall not be kept up; and the military shall be in strict subordination to the civil power.

Similar words are found in many many state constitutions across America. So any discussion of "well regulated militias" needs to start with the understanding that our forefathers abhorred large standing armies and would not be overly happy about the present day US military status quo. I'm certain they wouldn't be keen on scrapping the second amendment in favor of this status quo.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
12. "These kids should be drilling and marching with their militia"
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 11:52 AM
Jul 2015

All able bodied males between ages 18 to 45 belong to the unorganized militia. All able bodied females between the ages of 18 and 45 who have completed basic military training are also part of the unorganized militia.

 

PeoViejo

(2,178 posts)
3. Shooting is an Olympic Sport
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 01:47 PM
Jul 2015

It opens up competitive venues for those who might not otherwise succeed in other Sports. Having competed and coached two teams at the local level, I can assure you that it takes as much determination and concentration.

Hangingon

(3,071 posts)
6. Saw this on the news this morning.
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 02:08 PM
Jul 2015

My grandsons love skeet and trap. Wish their schools and stat had a program like this!

 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
7. Some colleges are even offering scholarships for trap & skeet shooters
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 03:39 PM
Jul 2015

who are willing to shoot on the school team.

I personally know an eighteen year old girl who got one of the scholarships.

ileus

(15,396 posts)
9. This is how we build tomorrows shooters...it's nice to see kids having fun
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 10:50 PM
Jul 2015

and learning one of America's great sports.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
13. I wonder how much of this is being driven by girls?
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 03:59 PM
Jul 2015

There has been a well-documented surge in the numbers of girls and women taking up the shooting sports. Perhaps there is also an "untraditional" component here.

 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
14. Some of the top competitive shooters now are women
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 05:31 PM
Jul 2015

Jerry Miculek's wife and daughter come to mind as well as some of the Corporate sponsored trap shooters. "Holy Terror" (SASS moniker) was a 13 year old girl the first time she won End of the Trail.

FWIW, I've found that the women in my classes are generally much better shots than the men. Better ability to focus and concentrate on things like sight alignment, sight picture, grip and trigger control.

They don't come to the line with a lot of bad habits and misperceptions, like some of the men do.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
15. I have always taken the rise of modern feminism (late 50s-up) seriously...
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 01:57 PM
Jul 2015

As women move into "previously male-dominated" jobs and vocations, it stands to reason the slow but inexorable tide would reach into the shooting ranges. This trend may reflect some success in restoring, or taking control of, the image of the shooting sports; it can't hurt that women are in the forefront of this over all effort.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,350 posts)
16. I'd hope it's about half ...
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 12:22 PM
Jul 2015

... so Title IX requirements are satisfied. I don't know if the teams are separated into Men's and Women's teams, or combined. I don't think there's any great advantage of one gender over the other in skeet/trap. There may be advantages in slow target shooting.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
18. The various 3-gun competitions are stirring the shooting sports pot a good deal,
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 01:27 PM
Jul 2015

sort of an X Game phenomenon where new competitions are created to better suit then interests of younger folks. I hope the t.v. theme musics change; I'm tired of the retread heavy metal/swamp/country crap that accompanies a DEER HUNT, for chrissakes.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
19. Everything old is new again.
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 01:51 PM
Jul 2015

This was the norm for high schools in the 70's-80's. Declining interest killed it for my high school.

LP2K12

(885 posts)
21. Nothing wrong with this.
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 07:58 PM
Jul 2015

Back when I was in high school (2000-2004), I was on the rifle team. I even got to bring my rifle to school on the bus and then lock it down in a vault that was run by the JROTC instructors.

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