Gun Control & RKBA
Related: About this forumAppeals Court Gives Gun Industry Reason to Celebrate
I thought that how a doctor figured out what to do or say to a patient only became a legal issue if the patient's condition following medical treatment turned worse. And if anyone, including a Federal judge, thinks that a physician can get around the privacy injunctions of HIPAA compliance, better the judge should be laying brick.
Want to make a million dollars in the gun business? Start with two million. The only time gun sales ramp up is when a high-profile shooting creates talk about gun control which provokes all the gun nuts to run into gun shops and buy more guns. Am I saying that the gun industry needs a Sandy Hook from time to time to promote sales? That's exactly what I'm saying. If gun violence really disappeared, the NRA would have a hard time selling the idea that every attempt at reasonable gun restrictions was an attack on our God-given right to defend ourselves with a gun.
The Florida gag law is nothing more than an extension of the attempt to push physicians out of the gun debate because their views on the medical risks of guns were cited by supporters of the Brady bill in 1994. Payback was the NRA's attack on CDC-funded gun violence research, a cynical attempt to silence a professional community whose commitment to patient health required speaking out about the risks of gun access, notwithstanding the fact that patients are always free to reject a physician's advice on any issue related to their health. Judge Tjoflat's statement that a patient is "relatively powerless" and "must submit to a physician's authority" may have been true when he was appointed to the Federal bench 45 years ago, but it's utter crap to promote such nonsense in the current digital age. Or perhaps Tjoflat's never heard of Facebook, Twitter or healthgrades.com.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mike-weisser/appeals-court-doctors-guns_b_7922552.html
scscholar
(2,902 posts)I don't understand what you hope to gain by claiming that they can.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)branford
(4,462 posts)For those who are interested, Eugene Volokh, well known First Amendment scholar, has offered a brief analysis of the case.
Note also there's still a chance of an en banc review by the whole 11th Circuit, or even a Petition for Certiorari before the Supreme Court.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/07/29/court-upholds-restriction-on-doctor-patient-speech-about-guns/
pablo_marmol
(2,375 posts)And thanks for providing some solid info. on this ruling branford.
krispos42
(49,445 posts)The ongoing attempts to define and ban "assault weapons" as a knee-jerk reaction by the usual suspects works much better, sells more guns and accessories, and gets gun owners far more motivated than fear of terrorism.
And when you're wringing you hands and bemoaning why oh why don't we have better government, you can look in a mirror for the answer.
That Planned Parenthood bill came damn close to passing today, didn't it? Enjoying all those shuttered clinics in Texas and the Dakotas and Louisiana?
Your culture war is a big part of that. Enjoy the fruits of your effort. Oh, and "Benghazi".
pablo_marmol
(2,375 posts).......selling the idea that every attempt at reasonable gun restrictions was an attack on our Dog-given right to defend ourselves with a gun."
LMAO! The group that would actually be in trouble would be The Controllers, because no amount of hysterical media support would work at that point.
Any thoughts on what you posted SecMo? (Oh for Pete's sake.....what was I thinking asking?!)