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safeinOhio

(32,715 posts)
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 10:43 AM Feb 2012

Police make arrest after fatal shooting in Milan

there is a difference between defending your home and vigilantism justice. People need to be trained in the laws of gun ownership.



http://annarbor.com/news/crime/police-make-arrest-after-fatal-shooting-in-milan/?cmpid=mlive

A victim of a home invasion in Milan is in custody, suspected of following one of the intruders and fatally shooting him late Thursday, police said.
Two men broke into a home on Anderson Street shortly before midnight while two women and a man were inside, Nieman said.
After the intruders stole property, one person inside the home followed the men along a path that connects the neighborhoods and opened fire, he said.
The victim was found dead on O'Brian Drive in the nearby Scottsdale Estates subdivision lying behind a car. The other man involved in the home invasion left the area.

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Police make arrest after fatal shooting in Milan (Original Post) safeinOhio Feb 2012 OP
Hell froze over shadowrider Feb 2012 #1
Well, it's been frozen for a while, it appears... Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #5
I also agree with safeinOhio's comment - Any decent self-defense course teaches applicable law slackmaster Feb 2012 #2
Once they leave your house, it's over. BiggJawn Feb 2012 #3
Yep, pipoman Feb 2012 #4
Do we really need a law to stop this kind of crud? Hoyt Feb 2012 #6
Given that the shooter is being investigated for a crime called "murder"... Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #7
Right -- the shooter should have realized hunting someone down and shooting them is murder. Hoyt Feb 2012 #8
or requiring gejohnston Feb 2012 #9
You are starting to get it. Hoyt Feb 2012 #10
Still rooting for thieves to suceed. one-eyed fat man Feb 2012 #13
Thank you vigilante man. "Retribution" -- good reason to keep guns out of public. Hoyt Feb 2012 #14
It is simple one-eyed fat man Feb 2012 #16
"Of course the NRA and gun culture might push for a law..." Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #11
NRA and gun culture might push for a law CokeMachine Feb 2012 #17
Welcome, another new one that hasn't been here long enough to read posts running for months/years. Hoyt Feb 2012 #18
Thanks for responding to what I actually posted. CokeMachine Feb 2012 #19
Yea, guns in the streets is a very progressive ideal. Hoyt Feb 2012 #20
WOW!! CokeMachine Feb 2012 #21
I think there is an ignore option. Hoyt Feb 2012 #22
Nowhere in the article does it say the bad guy was shot in the back shadowrider Feb 2012 #15
Not enough info in the article to make any informed opinions. PavePusher Feb 2012 #12
 

Johnny Rico

(1,438 posts)
5. Well, it's been frozen for a while, it appears...
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 11:25 AM
Feb 2012

At least in the 9th circle, as we can see:



But I agree.

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
2. I also agree with safeinOhio's comment - Any decent self-defense course teaches applicable law
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 10:56 AM
Feb 2012

Based on the information presented, this was not a justifiable shooting.

BiggJawn

(23,051 posts)
3. Once they leave your house, it's over.
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 11:09 AM
Feb 2012

Call the cops and hope they take it from there.

Now, if the bad guy comes BACK...

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
6. Do we really need a law to stop this kind of crud?
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 11:34 AM
Feb 2012

Jeez folks, if you have to pass a law to keep gun owners from following someone into an alley and shooting them in the back -- maybe we ought to rethink gun ownership, and carrying in public.
 

Johnny Rico

(1,438 posts)
7. Given that the shooter is being investigated for a crime called "murder"...
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 11:50 AM
Feb 2012

it would seem we already do.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
8. Right -- the shooter should have realized hunting someone down and shooting them is murder.
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 12:02 PM
Feb 2012

Doesn't take a law specifically laying it out for most people. Of course the NRA and gun culture might push for a law that covers them if they strap on a gun and follow a burglar into alleys to shoot them.

one-eyed fat man

(3,201 posts)
13. Still rooting for thieves to suceed.
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 01:56 PM
Feb 2012

The homeowner may or may not have had legal justification to shoot the thieving bastard, but in the long run the thief got what he came looking for when he kicked the door in.

It's called retribution.

one-eyed fat man

(3,201 posts)
16. It is simple
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 04:07 PM
Feb 2012
You don't break into peoples' homes and steal their stuff, you don't get shot.

It's not hard, except for people who think stealing is acceptable.
 

Johnny Rico

(1,438 posts)
11. "Of course the NRA and gun culture might push for a law..."
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 12:18 PM
Feb 2012

Let us know if and when they do so. Until then, though...

 

CokeMachine

(1,018 posts)
17. NRA and gun culture might push for a law
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 03:52 PM
Feb 2012

I thought I just read an OP that stated the NRA was a paper tiger and could be dismissed as having any power. Did I read it wrong or misunderstand??

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
18. Welcome, another new one that hasn't been here long enough to read posts running for months/years.
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 04:20 PM
Feb 2012

The NRA is run by -- and the membership is heavily weighted toward -- right wingers (many bigots). They use their money for right wing causes and to help gun manufacturers and marketers appeal to folks who can't venture out without a gun or two strapped to their bodies. The are polluting society with guns, just like other polluters.
 

CokeMachine

(1,018 posts)
19. Thanks for responding to what I actually posted.
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 05:03 PM
Feb 2012

Try this out: http://www.democraticunderground.com/117215392 to see what I was referring to. I do not support the NRA or the NRA-ILA. I was hesitant to reply to your post just knowing I would receive the same response you always use. Nothing original, nothing new to learn -- Thank You!! I've been lurking here for many years and come here to learn and keep up with progressive ideals. My handle a few years back was IdahoBakedPotatoe -- never posted but did donate.

By the way, I live in N. California so I don't strap anything on when I leave the house -- except for my computer bag or if I'm off to play ball maybe a cup.

Take Care

 

CokeMachine

(1,018 posts)
21. WOW!!
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 06:16 PM
Feb 2012

Do you even read anything before replying? No need to answer. From my breif encounter with you I can tell you don't. Thanks for sharing -- Ive learned so much from you . Be cool, enjoy life and keep contributing what you do. All it does is help the pro RKBA side when you greet a new poster with nothing but snark. If you come up with something cogent to say I'll consider it and respond but until then I'll read your posts and just ... not sure what I'll actually do.

Cheers

shadowrider

(4,941 posts)
15. Nowhere in the article does it say the bad guy was shot in the back
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 03:03 PM
Feb 2012

That's stretching facts to meet your objective.

 

PavePusher

(15,374 posts)
12. Not enough info in the article to make any informed opinions.
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 01:25 PM
Feb 2012

I can offer a hypothetical scenario: Resident follows criminals, confronts them, tries to physically retrieve her/his property, criminals present a deadly threat to try to keep property, resident defends himself with lethal force. All legal actions on the part of the resident.

I'll wait for more info before picking sides here. But it certainly goes to show that theivery of any kind is not a safe career path.

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