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sarisataka

(18,663 posts)
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 11:54 PM Sep 2015

‘I Had to Pull the Trigger’

‘I Had to Pull the Trigger’: Santa Ana Homeowner Who Wrestled Gun From Intruder

A Santa Ana homeowner said he "had to pull the trigger" after wrestling a gun from one of two intruders who entered his home Friday morning.

Erickson Dumaual said he was lying in bed at his home in the 2500 block of Manly Avenue (map) at about 4 a.m. when two men entered his room.

One of the intruders went to his bed and demanded valuables, Dumaual said.

“The guy had a gun right at my head,” said Dumaual, who told the man he had nothing worth taking.
http://ktla.com/2015/09/04/would-be-burglar-shot-with-his-own-gun-by-santa-ana-homeowner/
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‘I Had to Pull the Trigger’ (Original Post) sarisataka Sep 2015 OP
I can't help but wonder if some municipalities would see the victim arrested and Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2015 #1
I believe that the stock response would normally be branford Sep 2015 #2
"I believe that the stock response would normally be..." Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2015 #3
I had not considered that angle sarisataka Sep 2015 #4
Sometimes I hate it when I'm right -- Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2015 #5
A classic example of the HyperPunk©... Eleanors38 Sep 2015 #6

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
1. I can't help but wonder if some municipalities would see the victim arrested and
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 09:22 AM
Sep 2015

charged with unlicensed/illegal possession of a handgun for relieving the criminals of their weapon.

Yes, I'm absolutely serious because that is the depths of the anti-gun mania. They don't care how legitimate a cause a person may have to defend themselves they are complete zealots that the people be disarmed.

And if they would grudgingly admit that the victim was entitled to possess a gun in this instance -- seeing as it was brought into his home by criminals -- under what argument do they complain that the same homeowner should not be allowed to go to a licensed gun dealer after passing a background check?

Forgive me for being so gauche as to point this out but -- anti-gun zealots seem to suffer from a substantial internal inconsistency.

 

branford

(4,462 posts)
2. I believe that the stock response would normally be
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 11:30 AM
Sep 2015

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if guns were outlawed, criminals would be unlikely to have guns, violent crime would rarely happen or incidents like this wouldn't be particularly newsworthy, and, oh look, squirrel...

There's rarely a desire for discussion of the particulars of the incident like the OP, notably the fact that two burglars even without firearms are extremely dangers or even a healthy and strong man trained in Krav Maga almost didn't survive the encounter, to say nothing if he were old, frail, a smaller woman, etc. It's generally why the same people complaining about "stand your ground" or "castle doctrine" laws are the same demanding strict gun control. I often believe that some (although certainly not all) of such people believe the life of a violent attacker(s) is more important than their victim, and if self-defense is legally employed, it should still be a "fair" fight.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
3. "I believe that the stock response would normally be..."
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 02:24 PM
Sep 2015

And I believe you.

Yet, they might as well argue a prohibition on drugs would obviate the distribution, possession and use of drugs.


I often believe that some (although certainly not all) of such people believe the life of a violent attacker(s) is more important than their victim, and if self-defense is legally employed, it should still be a "fair" fight.

Which is why I do not believe them when they protest their only interest in gun control is to preserve innocent life.

sarisataka

(18,663 posts)
4. I had not considered that angle
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 03:01 PM
Sep 2015

in some states this could be considered an illegal transfer since no BGC was done.

I would not assume that there isn't at least one DA out there that would go ahead with prosecution.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
5. Sometimes I hate it when I'm right --
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 08:19 AM
Sep 2015

A pair of criminals break in to an occupied dwelling and point a gun at the homeowner who then defends himself.

The Controller response?

all three of them should be spending time in jail.......

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172175572#post2
 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
6. A classic example of the HyperPunk©...
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 03:09 PM
Sep 2015

The citizen disarmed the thug, but the thug kept attacking. The punk was there for far more than money.

Jesus, I hope Dumaual's pool filter is a good one.

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