Hell for that matter my P220 would be easier.


Besides why would anyone call an open carried AR a weapon. Anything can be a weapon...

How many people have been killed or even wounded by an AR-15 rifle while dining at a restaurant? To have such a irrational fear that you would commit theft and leave without paying for no danger is indeed sad. Of course now with your idiot poll, you compare a legal protest, which I do not agree with with racism and homaphobia? SICK. I may not agree with the protest but I have spent 30 years to ensure people can protest as long as it is legal.

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As we all know it is very unfortunate that there are enough dumb fucks out in the real world who will purposely target interracial couples, gay folks, black folks, white folks, trans folks, &c.; scum who will treat others as less then human simply because of color, sexual orientation, religion, disability, or some identified weakness.

Sad reality that people may become victims, and sometimes for no other reason then racist hate, bigotry and ignorance.

There are various ways to deal with the dangers of being victimized.
Running for your life is certainly one option, and it has its obvious perks. Flight is a natural reaction when contemplating a perceived threat.


Anyway, irregardless of the actual danger, I wouldn't be totally comfortable around a stranger out at a restaurant with an AR...It would make me at the least...curious, and certainly a bit leery.

Has this happened to you a lot?

Agreed.

Some people give out so much information that they could easily be found.

Personal photos, job description, even type of car and important dates..

posted on DU.

Not that it couldn't happen, mind you. Maybe it pays to show at least some civility!

My Cooper's color code would go from yellow to orange. A lot of it would depend on how it is being carried.
that said, this would get a higher alarm

than this

"As we all know it is very unfortunate that there are enough dumb fucks out in the real world who will purposely target interracial couples, gay folks, black folks, white folks, trans folks, &c.; scum who will treat others as less then human simply because of color, sexual orientation, religion, disability, or some identified weakness."
"Sad reality that people may become victims, and sometimes for no other reason then racist hate, bigotry and ignorance."


this is why so many people choose to own/carry firearms.

Especially with an extra mag or 2.

........to curtail gun violence? Why not?!

http://213ajq29v6vk19b76q3534cx.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Special-Feature-K-Harris.pdf

Really. It happened.

having dinner. I would be wearing my M&P Shield 9mm though. Who knows, out tables may be been next to each other and you had no idea I was carrying.

Time before that, a FN FNS. If you were at the next table, you wouldn't have been alarmed.

An AR is way too big to conceal, which is a big reason why rifles are the least misused of all weapons. It's also heavy and bulky, in spite of the small caliber, and you can't wear it.

You do realize that the only people who ever took AR's to restaurants were a handful of clueless publicity-seekers a couple years ago, right?

What really bothers you, and what you're trying your best to criminalize, is peons like me who have an AR in the gun safe and take it to the shooting range regularly. Such horrific deeds deserve felony punishments, ja?

Much more user friendly and it doesn't freak out all the less educated Barney Fife types that can stampede at the sound of thunder.

at a local Cracker Barrel. We both had our "little friends" with us, concealed of course. No problems, nobody screaming in fear and running out without paying for their meal.

12 people from 5 years old to 93, all know I carry.

The restaurant is a sponsor of the Illinois State Rifle Assn. newsletter ... and serves a great cut of prime rib. Great old fashioned steak house, with Sinatra on the speakers and an experienced wait staff.

But, its located in what has turned into a kind of sketchy industrial park and you have to park up and down the street.

Amazingly, nobody freaked about my IWB Kimber or Dad's S&W snubbie in a Galco pocket holster I bought him, for that matter. Nobody squealed and ran away, not even the little girls.

But everyone at the table knew they were there. Funny how that works, ain't it?

(I wish I could have bailed on that check! But 93rd Birthdays only come around so often.)

Sure, I own one. I just dont see a scenario where I would bring it with me to get dinner.

I would however bring my Dan Wesson.

I was packing light with a Astra M70 in 9mm. Both loaded with JHP.

... and I have plenty of "bulk" to conceal it with a Crossbreed IWB.

But ultimately, 1911s are what I'm most comfortable with and shoot best and the Ultra Carry is about as small as they get.

I have a Colt Government Pocketlite in .380 at 12 oz. (Mini 1911) but it doesn't have the grip safety and I like that extra level of security for carry.

Nothing wrong with a Dan Wesson either.

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what part(s) of Stone Space's normal behavior suggest to normal people that he needs to be shot?
Why does he not correct that bad behavior that even he recognizes as bad?

and whining about his failed alert of your post in the other group.

My point was that Stone Space says Stone Space needs to be shot. I was wondering why he would say that.

The reading comprehension of the three jurors is also in question.

...of basic comprehension as well as observable low intelligence is highly unlikely to be a mathematics professor. "Quack who spews nonsense in internet forums" is probably a more accurate description.

Just had a wonderful meal at olive garden a while ago with a 45 caliber glock safely stashed away on my person...

Ar15 too big too carry around everywhere

8 hides.. WOW.

The Calculaz professor spends more time in time-out than being in good standing..

There are others out there with 8 or supposedly even more hides still posting.

I used to think it was satire or performance art, but I actually think he truly believes, which is a frightening concept.

But I have confidence that anyone that can get thrown off Discussionist can probably get tossed off DU.

And this guy qualifies in spades.

Our friend is right back to attributing to others, things, sentiments, words, that they did not actually did not say, and meanings to the words others did say, which those posters obviously did not mean.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/126210573#post3

To me, it seems obvious, that poster has not learned anything from being in time out or under review, and refuses to behave.

...my ass. Nobody so completely divorced from logic and reason could be teaching university level math. Seriously....

...it takes a special level of unreality to do well in higher education.

Although he didn't like some of my verbiage when I told him so.

They won't ever kick him out for being rude and obnoxious to gun owners. Hell, that's seen as a badge of "courage" to some folks here.

But he treats people in the Religion group the same way, so that may earn him a ticket to "Nowheresville".

In the meantime, if he keeps up the odd and aggressive behavior here, our Host may choose to step in with a 90 day suspension.

That at least, would focus his "oddness" onto another group where he will get banned for the lying and foolishness.

And still roaming free, I wonder if he has some "dirt" on someone??

It's an automatic process...and the account remains on "time out" until a human admin reviews it. All it takes is a little alert swarming, and you're on time out for at least 24 hours (it usually takes several days).

He's up to 8 hides last time I looked.

But he's big on posting the same thing in multiple groups. Must be hoping to find a kindred soul somewhere.

So if it's annoying or over the top in one, it's probably gonna piss of people in other groups too and trigger that I guess.

Okay, one was kinda earned: both posts were pretty aggressive. The other instance was pure swarming. Ah, good ol' GD: P!

Yes I realize people have brought an AR to a restaurant, but It happens just about never.

I have seen people with a handgun in line at a gas station.

I just waited behind him and when it was my turn I paid for my coffee. He has likely a cop. Or maybe he wasnt, honesty I didnt care. My assumptuon is somebody out to commit a crime wants a low profile and that doesnt include open carry.

thats how you do prom.

hell we didn't even have a dj, one of my friends had to blast his car stereo.

Maybe Daniel Defense or FN. Daniel Defense seems on the pricey side though.

Way too $$$$.

Colt - under 1K

on Del-Ton ar15?

Is that so many of the components come from the same places.

The upper and lower are mostly from Cerro Forge (the key logo) and many of the components are also sourced from the same places.

Some have M4 fed ramps (is that really important????) and some have a bead blasted bolt carrier (same comment)

And all the components can be changed, swapped out, upgraded, etc.

My advice - buy what you want to own/the best you can comfortably afford. If it's a Del Ton then great.


I only own 2 guns - a Smith revolver and a Mauser bolt action.

If I were to buy an AR it would be a Colt. A shotgun - a Rem 870. A semi auto... a 1911

You get the idea.....

that criticized a certain AR for not being Parkerized under the front sight base.

Sitting in a safe, you would probably get some rust under there.....

In about 10,000 years.

Good luck.

Most have Colt parts for the upper, barrel and bolt carrier group.

FWIW, The M4 ramps are nice to have for reliable feeding.

When you build it yourself, you know all there is to know about that rifle and if it starts having a problem; FTF, FTE, double feed etc. you'll know what's wrong with it better than anybody that writes a check for one.

The trick to building one is to not have the tiny little detent springs windup in an obscure corner of your kitchen, never to be seen again until the cat pukes it up.

The basic assembly tools from Brownell's are worth their weight in gold, especially for putting the dust cover in place.

are the Small Arms Repair tool kits. The same tool kit is used for a guy who just lubes the buffer extension to the guy who replaces the guts of the trigger group or mounts new barrels.

They stopped making the 556E for some reason. Found 2 on auction sites. One for $1200 and the other for$1400.
Too rich for my blood.

you dine with a homosexual who carries concealed and his lover who owns an ar15?

Of course I would.

for a mall ninja/hipster who likes Starbucks. What can I say, I would have to get the one that is a Holland and Holland wantabe who thinks snails and fish eggs are proper food, and overpriced colored water is "coffee". It thought it was too good for cowboy coffee, beans, and chili with the lever action and I. The lever action even scarfs my hardtack.

Now he's being his "charming self" in Religion and trying to make every Religion and GD post he can find about guns.

Serious obsession at work there.

Funny, he's spending time in Bansalot now, not here "discussing" his posts? Wonder why?

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