Gun Control & RKBA
Related: About this forumMSI Nationwide Handgun Permit Issuance Map
Very cool map from MSI.
http://marylandshallissue.org/get-informed/shall-issue-maps/
Response to Kennah (Original post)
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Angleae
(4,493 posts)It's not as though the gang members actually carry legally.
Kennah
(14,315 posts)Callisto32
(2,997 posts)You will make no friends here, hoping for violence.
pipoman
(16,038 posts)do you wish for DUI fatalities on non-dry counties too? An AIDS epidemic on places which recognize same sex marriage? So Archie Bunkerish, you should really be ashamed of the utter stupidity of such a filthy statement.
pipoman
(16,038 posts)and the one below, knowing that virtually all violent crime is experiencing a 20 year decline, and still proclaim concealed carry to be a blood-in-the-streets mistake is just astoundingly stupid...or as with the poster above, wishful that those who see the stupidity should be murdered...such a peacful bunch those who oppose concealed carry are, huh?
oneshooter
(8,614 posts)PavePusher
(15,374 posts)X_Digger
(18,585 posts)oneshooter
(8,614 posts)ileus
(15,396 posts)Ottopoint
(4 posts)That would be even better!
Atypical Liberal
(5,412 posts)Areas in red experience high gang-related crime, too.
I wonder if there is a correlation?
jeepnstein
(2,631 posts)CCW and gang activity are two totally different issues. Most gang members are frequent fliers with the justice system and are under from disability from owning firearms for the most part.
PavePusher
(15,374 posts)Lots of localities with high crime rates exist that are in "shall issue" areas of that map, but aren't discernable.
The cutting questions are: 1. After adoption of "shall issue" or "Constitutional carry", did crime rates go up, stay the same or go down? 2. Is the change demonstrateably linked to the change in gun laws/legal carry numbers?
Response to Kennah (Original post)
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Kennah
(14,315 posts)Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)Glaug-Eldare
(1,089 posts)I'm also assuming that Franklin County, MA is predominantly permissive.
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slackmaster
(60,567 posts)Glaug-Eldare
(1,089 posts)Can a normal (non-politician, non-LEO, non-wealthy) citizen get a carry permit in San Diego county if, for instance, they've been threatened or have a dangerous job?
slackmaster
(60,567 posts)..."good reasons" e.g. carrying large amounts of cash or valuables on the job. Sheriff Gore is not a big proponent of the RKBA. OTOH he hasn't demonstrated the kind of corruption and tit-for-tat permit issuance for which a recent Orange County sheriff got into hot water.
Glaug-Eldare
(1,089 posts)and CalCCW more or less corroborates this. I'll change it when I get home.
ileus
(15,396 posts)Meiko
(1,076 posts)the concealed carry movement first took hold. The anti's were screaming. "it will be like the wild west"..."There will be blood flowing in the streets" Well, we are still waiting.
ileus
(15,396 posts)any minute now...