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moobu2

(4,822 posts)
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 01:48 PM Apr 2012

18 y/o arrested for carrying a loaded M1 Garand rifle in downtown Birmingham Alabama.

wow, I just don't want to live in a culture where kids, or anyone for that matter, are openly carrying riffles everywhere.

Combs' choice to carry the M1 Garand slung over his shoulder resulted in his arrest by Birmingham Police – an experience his close friend Lia Grabowski calls "terrifying."

Grabowski spoke up on Combs' behalf Monday, saying her friend "was in his legal right" when he was arrested.

Grabowski, 17, also a senior at Troy High, said she was with Combs at the time of his arrest Friday and witnessed Combs' exchange with police.

“We were just walking down to Birmingham," Grabowski said. "We weren’t doing anything. There were groups of kids walking around.

"He’s a huge supporter of open carry and the right to bear arms, and he thought he could legally carry. He wasn’t going to use it on anyone. Obviously, he could have defended himself, but he wasn’t looking for a fight.”


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Combs declined to comment Monday without his attorney present. He is scheduled to be arraigned May 2 on charges of disturbing the peace, brandishing a weapon and obstructing an investigation.


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18 y/o arrested for carrying a loaded M1 Garand rifle in downtown Birmingham Alabama. (Original Post) moobu2 Apr 2012 OP
Another stupid kid following gun obsessed mentors. A shame. Hoyt Apr 2012 #1
Wow Hoyt, AH1Apache Apr 2012 #3
The implication was, he could have defended himself from the police officers, if he was up to no goo AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #21
"Obviously, he could have defended himself, but he wasn’t looking for a fight.” ellisonz Apr 2012 #2
he could have used it for a club gejohnston Apr 2012 #5
Maybe he was worried about... ellisonz Apr 2012 #6
I'm a little surprised they didn't charge him with that, too. HALO141 Apr 2012 #39
you would not have like where I grew up gejohnston Apr 2012 #4
Sounds like my high school every day during deer season. ManiacJoe Apr 2012 #7
Shotguns for us during bird season DonP Apr 2012 #22
And look at how you guys turned out. Hoyt Apr 2012 #10
And just how did we turn out Hoyt? AH1Apache Apr 2012 #12
I turned out just fine gejohnston Apr 2012 #30
That's nothing bongbong Apr 2012 #15
Not against the law as far as I can tell. CokeMachine Apr 2012 #8
Had he shown ID to prove legal possession due to age, ManiacJoe Apr 2012 #9
Both sides appear SATIRical Apr 2012 #34
I wouldn't say that's a lock, but... HALO141 Apr 2012 #40
OMG!! PavePusher Apr 2012 #11
Alabama does not allow open carry of handguns. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #14
I think the Sheriff may be incorrect. PavePusher Apr 2012 #19
Constitution? bongbong Apr 2012 #16
Amendment 2. PavePusher Apr 2012 #17
2nd amendment bongbong Apr 2012 #24
You just forgot the sarcasm tag, right? ManiacJoe Apr 2012 #25
Please cite where it says "...the right of the militia...". PavePusher Apr 2012 #26
That horse is so dead AH1Apache Apr 2012 #27
Yawn bongbong Apr 2012 #32
The NRA's revision of the Constitution? AH1Apache Apr 2012 #36
Where does it say you can't? Clames Apr 2012 #18
Yawn bongbong Apr 2012 #33
Refute you! No more than we need to argue with flat earth society members DonP Apr 2012 #35
And now let's add to the growing list of new mantra AH1Apache Apr 2012 #37
Some states allow open carry Meiko Apr 2012 #31
Makes me think of Northfield Minnesota - the James and Younger Gang attempted bank robbery DonP Apr 2012 #38
I sure hope he was legally carrying....it'll make his bank account feel better. ileus Apr 2012 #13
Maybe it's a very well thought out and creative college funding plan? DonP Apr 2012 #23
Don't come to Wyoming or Montana then. Common Sense Party Apr 2012 #20
MICHIGAN, not Alabama mvccd1000 Apr 2012 #28
D'OH!!!!! Mea Culpa here...... PavePusher Apr 2012 #29
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
1. Another stupid kid following gun obsessed mentors. A shame.
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 01:54 PM
Apr 2012

"He could have defended himself" according to his buddy -- from what, I have no idea. They both remind me of the kids of gun carriers I've known. I hope the police file charges. Need to teach these budding Zimmermans a lesson at a young age, because dad and mom didn't.

 

AH1Apache

(502 posts)
3. Wow Hoyt,
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 02:04 PM
Apr 2012

2 new mantras in one post, let's see here
1. gun obsessed mentors, and
2. budding Zimmermans.
You are the best thing that has happened to the RKBA,

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
21. The implication was, he could have defended himself from the police officers, if he was up to no goo
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 06:40 PM
Apr 2012

d. That cartridge would perforate a police officer's vest probably twice over.

So the implication from his 'friend' was, he wasn't looking for trouble, as he didn't kill or even attempt to kill the officers that arrested him.

HALO141

(911 posts)
39. I'm a little surprised they didn't charge him with that, too.
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 05:20 PM
Apr 2012

Obviously, they didn't charge him with illegally carrying a firearm so I'll assume that it's legal in that state for an 18 y/o to be in possession of a long gun and that it's legal to have such a weapon on or about one's person.

Brandish:
1: to shake or wave (as a weapon) menacingly
2: to exhibit in an ostentatious or aggressive manner

Simply having a rifle slung over your shoulder does not fit either of those definitions, IMHO. If the D.A. takes the position that simply being seen with a rifle is "menacing" enough then it's difficult to see how one could ever transport one anywhere without being in violation.

I think there's a good chance he'll beat the rap but it's probably going to cost him (his parents) a bunch of money and I bet his rifle gets "lost" somewhere in the police property room. (Or the judge's gun cabinet.)

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
4. you would not have like where I grew up
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 02:06 PM
Apr 2012

Every Thursday there were about 20 or 30 high school kids carrying unloaded rifles to school. Cops would drive by, think nothing of it.
Some of us walked, some did not. Once at school, we put the guns in our lockers, box of shells on the shelf. There it sat until after our classes. From there, we took them to the range in the basement.
no shootouts
our armed robberies averaged one a decade

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
7. Sounds like my high school every day during deer season.
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 02:21 PM
Apr 2012

Since our lockers were not big enough to hold the rifles, they were all stacked against the wall in the principal's office.

 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
22. Shotguns for us during bird season
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 06:47 PM
Apr 2012

Walked into school and checked them in at the principals office along with any ammunition we had.

In season it was not unusual to have 10 to 20 shotties leaning against the wall, side by sides, pumps and for the "rich" kids one or two semi autos they borrowed from Dad or Grandpa, actions all opened of course. This was the era before ECI flags were common.

On the way home we worked the cut over cornfields and hedgerows looking for pheasant, rabbit and the occasional quail. I guess we just weren't smart enough to terrorize those around us.

 

AH1Apache

(502 posts)
12. And just how did we turn out Hoyt?
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 02:51 PM
Apr 2012

I'd be interested to know what you think of us? Oh wait, you've made it quite clear what you think of us.
Your correct about one thing, you just couldn't resist with the snarky insults. Says alot about your character.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
30. I turned out just fine
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 03:57 AM
Apr 2012

at least my mom thought so. First Sgt, might have had his and her (depending on the station) their doubts.

 

bongbong

(5,436 posts)
15. That's nothing
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 05:55 PM
Apr 2012

At my high school, it seemed nearly everybody wore body armor & carried an RPG with lotsa ammo in a little trailer they pulled behind themselves from class to class. Most people also had at least a machine pistol & a couple of automatics.

It was HEAVENLY!

HALO141

(911 posts)
40. I wouldn't say that's a lock, but...
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 05:25 PM
Apr 2012

I think you're right that he probably sealed his fate when he failed the attitude test.

 

PavePusher

(15,374 posts)
11. OMG!!
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 02:51 PM
Apr 2012

Teenagers, who've apparently read the Constitution, legally and peacefully exercising their Rights!!

Hell, next they'll want to vote, drive, print news-sheets, invent a religion, maybe even speak in public!! Terra, terra, terra!!1!11!!

Prediction: All charges will be dismissed, as he seems to have done everything by the book.

 

AH1Apache

(502 posts)
36. The NRA's revision of the Constitution?
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 12:08 PM
Apr 2012

So I guess the SCOTUS, numerous constitutuonal scholars, hell, even POTUS are wrong.
Whodda thunk it.

 

Clames

(2,038 posts)
18. Where does it say you can't?
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 06:30 PM
Apr 2012

Oh dear, your interpretation of the 2A is dust in the wind...





RKBA

 

bongbong

(5,436 posts)
33. Yawn
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 11:21 AM
Apr 2012

You gun-religionists keep declaring victory in your illogical attempts to refute me. That is pretty much all you got. I understand.

 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
35. Refute you! No more than we need to argue with flat earth society members
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 11:42 AM
Apr 2012

The militia interpretation isn't even a footnote in law books any more. When Tribe and Derhsowitz dropped it over a decade ago that was pretty much the last gasp outside the Brady bunch PR team.

So is it safe to assume that as part of your action plan to correct all the misinformed gun zealots out here that you probably won't be voting for that guy in the WH that also believes that it's an individual right, not connected with service in a militia? Or will you be big about it and overlook his "stupidity" on the issue?

Please fill us in on what else you are doing to correct what you are sure are the misperceptions on the 2nd amendment.

Let me guess, in the real world you are actually doing nothing?

 

AH1Apache

(502 posts)
37. And now let's add to the growing list of new mantra
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 12:12 PM
Apr 2012

gun-religionists.
BTW, you are 100% wrong, we have the SCOTUS, numerous constitutional scholars, and yes, even POTUS who all agree that the 2A is an individual right.

 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
38. Makes me think of Northfield Minnesota - the James and Younger Gang attempted bank robbery
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 12:18 PM
Apr 2012

Candidate for the world's worst criminal timing.

Deciding to rob the bank on the opening day of deer season, when pretty much every adult in town had a loaded rifle either on them or handy.

The gang got no money and totally shot up by the armed citizenry.

Jesse got away, but Frank got shot up and at least one of the Younger brothers was killed. Doesn't pay to screw with the life savings of armed farmers and deer hunters.

 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
23. Maybe it's a very well thought out and creative college funding plan?
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 06:52 PM
Apr 2012

Maybe he didn't get the chess scholarship he was counting on and figured out a way to have the town, or their insurance company, pay his way for all 4 years with the out of court settlement to avoid the big ass 7 figure suit ... if he was obeying the law.

Hey kid, answer your phone. Alan Gura is on line 1.

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