Gun Control & RKBA
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Scroll down to page 31 of John McCain's Opposition Research Document on Mitt Romney. The formatting is better if you follow the link:
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Romney: I Purchased A Gun When I Was A Young Man. Ive Been A Hunter Pretty Much All My Life.
(Glen Johnson, Romney Calls Himself A Longtime Hunter,
The Associated Press
, 4/5/07)
Romney Has Spoken Of His Hunting Prowess On Several Occasions.
The Republican presidentialcontender has told audiences on several occasions, most recently this week in gun-savvy and early voting New Hampshire, that he has been a longtime hunter.
(Glen Johnson, Romney Calls Himself A Longtime Hunter,
The Associated Press
, 4/5/07)
Romney Repeatedly Claimed He Owned A Gun And Went Hunting Himself.
[Romney] expressedenthusiasm for guns and hunting. I have a gun of my own. I go hunting myself. Im a member of the NRA andbelieve firmly in the right to bear arms, Romney said.
(Scott Helman, Romney Retreats On Gun Control,
The Boston Globe
,1/14/07)
I Have A Gun Of My Own, I Go Hunting Myself...
(Glenn And Helen Radio Show,www.glennandhelenshow.com,1/10/07)
Romneys Pro-Gun Campaign Rhetoric Noted By Media.
To hear Mitt Romney talk on the campaign trail, youmight think the Republican presidential candidate had a gun rack in the back of his pickup truck.
(
Glen Johnson,Romney Calls Himself A Longtime Hunter,
The Associated Press
, 4/5/07)
Romney Forced To Admit He Hunted Only Two Times In His Life And Does Not Own A GunRomney Later Admitted He Has Been Hunting Only Twice In His Life Once Nearly Fifty Years Ago, OnceAt Fenced Game Preserve On 2006 Retreat For Political Donors.
[T]he former Massachusetts governorshunting experience is limited to two trips at the bookends of his 60 years: as a 15-year-old, when he huntedrabbits with his cousins on a ranch in Idaho, and last year, when he shot quail on a fenced game preserve inGeorgia. Last years trip was an outing with major donors to the Republican Governors Association, whichRomney headed at the time.
(Glen Johnson, Romney Calls Himself A Longtime Hunter,
The Associated Press
, 4/5/07)
Romneys Recent Hunting Experience: RGA Quail Hunt In Sea Island, Georgia.
According to hiscampaign, Romney spent a summer as a 15-year-old hunting rabbits in Idaho and didnt hunt again until lastyear, when he attended a quail hunt in Sea Island, Ga., sponsored by the Republican Governors Association.
(Scott Helman, Romneys Record On Guns Questioned,
The Boston Globe
, 4/5/07)
After Professing He Owned A Gun, Romney Admitted The Gun Was Not His But Maintained He WentHunting From Time To Time.
Asked by reporters at the gun show Friday whether he personally owned thegun, Romney said he did not. He said one of his sons, Josh, keeps two guns at the family vacation home in Utah,and he uses them from time to time.
(Scott Helman, Romney Retreats On Gun Control,
The Boston Globe
, 1/14/07)
Even Romney Acknowledges That The Single Gun In One Of His Homes Isnt His; It Belongs To HisSon.
(Editorial, Modified Mitt,
Lowell Sun
, 2/22/07)
[Romney] Does Not Own A Firearm, Despite Claiming To Earlier This Year.
(Glen Johnson, RomneyDefends Lack Of Hunting License,
The Associated Press
, 4/7/07)
Voter Who Asked Initial Question Said Of Romney: I See Another John Kerry Coming Down The Road
Joe Feuer, Who Asked Romney Initial Question: I See Another John Kerry Coming Down The Road.
FOX 25 BOSTONS JOE BATTENFELD: Do you view this as sort of one more, kind of
JOE FEUER: Flipflop? Yeah, I see another John Kerry coming down the road.
(Fox 25 News,www.youtube.com, 4/11/07)
WatchFeuer Comment On Romneys Hunting Remarks.A Day Later, Romney Revised His Remarks, Saying Hed Hunted Small Varmints And Rodents MoreThan Twice
Romney Revised His Remarks The Next Day, Saying He Has Always Hunted Rodents AndVarmints.
Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney is taking a second shot at describing his huntingexperience.
Campaigning in Indianapolis on Thursday, Romney said he has hunted small game since hisyouth. Im not a big-game hunter. Ive made that very clear, he said. Ive always been a rodent and rabbit hunter.
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Small varmints, if you will. I began when I was 15 or so and I have hunted those kinds of varmints since then.More than two times.
(Emily Udell, Romney Aims Again To Explain Hunting,
The Associated Press
, 4/6/07)
Boston Herald
s Brett Arends: Varmints? Rabbits? Hello, Elmer Fudd.
Ive always been a rodent andrabbit hunter. Small varmints if you will, the hapless ex-governor said last week following his claim that hehad been a hunter all my life. Varmints? Rabbits? Hello, Elmer Fudd.
(Brett Arends, Op-Ed, Mitt Shoots Holes In HisCredibility,
Boston Herald
, 4/11/07)
Romney Was Not Trying To Mislead Anyone, Claimed His Aides.
An aide said Wednesday that Romneywas not trying to mislead anyone, although he confirmed Romney had been hunting only on those occasions inhis life.
(Glen Johnson, Romney Calls Himself A Longtime Hunter,
The Associated Press
, 4/5/07)
Romney Spokesman Kevin Madden: I Think This Is Probably A Lot Of Quibbling Over The TermLifelong.
(MSNBCs Live News, 4/5/07)
Lowell Sun
Called Romneys Claim To Have Longtime Passion For Hunting More Than A Little Weak.
Romney and his spokesman are working overtime to convince gun enthusiasts the former governor didnt switchhis position just to appeal to gun owners, but it is a tough sell. His argument that he has been a hunter all his life,because as a boy working on a ranch in Idaho he shot rabbits that were eating the barley and that he has recentlybeen quail hunting, is more than a little weak.
(Editorial, Modified Mitt,
Lowell Sun
, 2/22/07)
Washington Post:
Romneys Hunting Gaffe Serves As Lesson That Money Cant Buy Authenticity.
Thereare things in politics that money cant buy, and chief among them is the quality of authenticity: the ability toconvince voters that a candidate is more than the sum of positioning by his or her handlers. Last week, formerMassachusetts governor Mitt Romney was the latest to discover that truth.
(Editorial, Killer Rabbits,
The Washington Post
, 4/10/07)
Mitt Romney Tried To Look Like A Hunter And Ended Up Shooting Himself In The Foot.
(Editorial,Killer Rabbits,
The Washington Post
, 4/10/07)
TheHill.coms Brent Budowsky: Now Mitt Romney Lies About Hunting.
Now Mitt Romney lies abouthunting. The former Massachusetts governor said he had been a hunter for just about all his life. Almostimmediately his staff reminded him he had only been hunting twice. Presumably Mr. Romney forgot about all thetimes he never hunted.
(Brent Budowsky, The Republicans Pinocchio Problem,
The Hill
s PunditsBlog, 4/5/07)
Newsweek
: Romneys Varmints Explanation Sounded Stiff And Lame.
Romney tried to explain that hehad not been a big game hunter but rather shot at varmints and smaller game
But the explanations soundedstiff and lame one more example of Romneys trying to pander to true-blue conservatives and getting called outfor it.
(Evan Thomas et al, Is Mitt Romney Ready For Prime-Time Politics?
Newsweek
, 4/16/07)
Flashback: Romney Admitted Only One Prior Hunting Experience In 2003 RemarksIn Late 2003, Romney Admitted He Had Only Been Hunting Once In His Life.
His only hunting experiencewas shooting rabbits at a ranch in Idaho with a .22-caliber rifle and he acknowledged he has struggled when hetried fly fishing in the past.
(John J. Monaghan, Romney OKs Funds For Wildlife Programs, [Massachusetts]
Telegram & Gazette
,11/1/03)
No Evidence Exists Romney Has Ever Taken Out A Hunting LicenseRomney Has Never Procured A Hunting License, According To Officials In Four States Where He HasLived.
Officials in the four states where Mitt Romney has lived say the Republican presidential contender, whocalls himself a lifelong hunter, never took out a license. Romney says thats because he has seldom huntedwhere he needed one.
Hunting certain small game there doesnt require a license.
[T]he Associated Press
asked wildlife officials in Michigan, Massachusetts, New Hampshire and Utah for any documentation verifyingRomney had been a registered hunter.
(Glen Johnson, Romney Defends Lack Of Hunting License,
The Associated Press
, 4/7/07)
No Record Of Romney License In Michigan, Massachusetts Or New Hampshire Utah Does Not AllowAccess To License Records.
Officials from Michigan, Massachusetts and New Hampshire, where a license isnecessary to hunt such small game, said they could not immediately locate any license for Romney. An official inUtah said a change in state law last year blocked public access to license records.
(Glen Johnson, Romney DefendsLack Of Hunting License,
The Associated Press
, 4/7/07)
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Romneys Handling Of Gun Issue Compared To Similar Efforts By John Kerry In 2004
Associated Press
Report: Criticism Of Romney Evokes Echoes Of Kerry.
Critics said it was the latestexample of a White House aspirant willing to say anything to reach the Oval Office.
The charge echoed withsimilarities to the criticism the Republican National Committee used to level against another Massachusettspolitician running for president, Sen. John Kerry, who was his partys 2004 nominee.
(Glen Johnson, Romney CallsHimself A Longtime Hunter,
The Associated Press
, 4/5/07)
Eye On 08 Blog: Mitt Romney Has A Problem With Gun Owners, And It Is That He Is Like JohnKerry.
(Romney On Guns: More Mitt-Representations, Eye On 08 Blog,www.eyeon08.com, 4/4/07)
American Spectator
s Philip Klein: This Is Al Gore/John Kerry-Type Stuff, And CompletelyUnnecessary.
(Philip Klein, Romney The Rodent Hunter, American Spectators AmSpecBlog, 4/6/07)
Lowell Sun
: Lets Recall That Sen. John Kerry
Was Pilloried For Trying To Court Gun Owners WithStaged Hunt.
Lets recall that Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., was pilloried by his political foes, and the media, whenhe tried to court gun owners by joining a duck hunt in brand-new camouflage duds. No one believed a guynormally spotted skiing or windsurfing was a hunting enthusiast, and no one should believe Romney is, either.
(Editorial, Modified Mitt,
Lowell Sun
, 2/22/07)
MSNBCs Norah ODonnell Asked Campaign Adviser If Romneys Hunting Remarks Could Be ComparedTo John Kerrys Duck Hunt From 2004.
ODONNELL: [Y]ou may recall the 2004 presidential race. John Kerrywas widely ridiculed when there was video of him on a hunting trip and after that came this tide of criticism,painting Kerry as this flip flopper, like, Look at him out there, hes trying to prove he is a huntsman and hes not.Are you concerned that Romney could get portrayed as a flip flopper in the same sort of way?
(MSNBCs Live News,4/5/07)
Boston Globe
Columnist Compared Romneys Gaffe With Kerrys Can I Get Me A Hunting LicenseComment.
Of course, Romney is not alone when it comes to trying to woo the hunting crowd. During the 2004campaign, John Kerry asked store owners in Ohio, Can I get me a hunting license here? He was furtherlampooned after he emerged from a cornfield, wearing a camouflage jacket and holding a dead goose. But Kerryactually owns guns.
(Joan Vennochi, Op-Ed, Guns, Trust, And Romney,
The Boston Globe
, 4/8/07)
Globe
Columnist: Leave It To Mitt Romney To Shoot Himself In The Foot With A Gun He DoesntOwn.
(Joan Vennochi, Op-Ed, Guns, Trust, And Romney,
The Boston Globe
, 4/8/07)
Boston Herald
Drew Parallels Between Romneys Pandering To Gun Owners And Kerrys 04 Efforts.
Why pandering to the National Rifle Association requires actually invoking some kind of hunting expertise is still amystery. There are no real rules about pandering, after all. And if Romney doesnt believe that, theres a once-used L.L. Bean hunting outfit John Kerry might lend him.
(Editorial, Let The Varmint Hunt Begin,
Boston Herald
, 4/7/07)
Washington Post
s Dana Milbank: Hes Getting A Little Bit Of A Kerry Problem.
He doesnt call themsmall animals, he calls them varmints. It sounds like Yosemite Sam here
Say your prayers, varmints. Does itrecall or bring to mind something that happened about this time in the 2004 cycle with John Kerry and hishunting? Its curious that these two from Massachusetts seem to have this sort of I voted for the $87 billion beforeI voted against it problem going on here, just as Mitt Romney is rising to prominence in the Republican field, hesgetting a little bit of a Kerry problem.
(MSNBCs Countdown, 4/9/07)
Romney Joined NRA For Blatantly Political Reasons Months Before Forming Presidential ExploratoryCommitteeRomney Explains He Signed Up For Lifetime NRA Membership In August 2006 Because Im After TheNRAs Endorsement.
If Im Going To Ask For Their Endorsement, Theyre Going To Ask For Mine.
Expressing familiarity with and support for gun rights is key among Republican presidential contenders
It helpsexplain why Romney joined the NRA last August, signing up not just as a supporter but a designated Lifetimemember
Romney told a Derry, N.H., audience, Im after the NRAs endorsement. Im not sure theyll give it tome. I hope they will. I also joined because if Im going to ask for their endorsement, theyre going to ask for mine.
(Glen Johnson, Romney Calls Himself A Longtime Hunter,
The Associated Press
, 4/5/07)
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TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)Really.
He'll bend over for anyone that will throw a vote his way.
PavePusher
(15,374 posts)He's a politician.
Whores have standards.
aikoaiko
(34,178 posts)Even the RW gun guys I know hate that Mitt is their guy. They have no confidence in his newly found love of guns and RKBA.
OffWithTheirHeads
(10,337 posts)I have lots of guns. I'm not a real big fan of shooting Gods creatures but I like to shoot paper. So what
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)if Mitty does the Kerry, he will show up wearing English tweed sporting a gun he bought from this London gun shop.
or this one in NYC
for the nongun folks, click on "gun rooms" then "stock new/used" gun link and will take you to the prices for that store in the local currency.
http://www.hollandandholland.com/index.php
Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)god forbid.
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)If he is with Grover or Ted....................................
Callisto32
(2,997 posts)I expect at the very least a single trigger....
But I guess function follows form for the ueberreich.
Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)Kaleva
(36,319 posts)"Watersmeet School District - Home of the Nimrods"
http://www.watersmeet.k12.mi.us/
Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)Cronkite
(158 posts)Anyone that believes he is a "gun rights" candidate really needs to WAKE THE F UP.......
PavePusher
(15,374 posts)Even if the paranoia-lovers are correct, and Obama massively pushes "gun control" in his second term, he couldn't, in his wettest dreams, achieve what Mitt-fuck did in that poor, abused state.
Atypical Liberal
(5,412 posts)All he will do is push policies that help rich people and screw average people.
Ian David
(69,059 posts)friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)The guy is Milo Minderbinder brought to life....
slackmaster
(60,567 posts)Remmah2
(3,291 posts)nt
jeepnstein
(2,631 posts)I'm sure Mitt "has people" that take care of him. The rest of us are on our own. Not that he cares.
kudzu22
(1,273 posts)These office-wonks who are obviously not outdoorsmen go out into the field dressed up like they just walked out of Bass Pro Shops and pose with a brand new shotgun. Like this is supposed to convince us he's a regular guy. I give credit to Obama for not falling into that trap.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)This is a major weak spot in Romney's armor, with a very large number of conservatives.
Bring it up at the range, anywhere you can. Romney isn't a friend of gun owners at all, even if the NRA was willingly duped.
Trunk Monkey
(950 posts)Mitt Romney could promise to repeal every gun law ever passed in this country and make the entire country permitless carry and I'm still not going to vote for him.
So, why do I care what his stance on any firearms related issue is?
Ian David
(69,059 posts)I just didn't realize we were married.
Trunk Monkey
(950 posts)I just didn't understand why we care what Rmoney thinks about guns. If you think that's not a legitimate question can you tell me why? I'm just trying to understand the rationale
Ian David
(69,059 posts)You take this stuff and you share it with those who need to hear it.
Trunk Monkey
(950 posts)Although I don't think out repugnantlican brethren are all that thrilled w/ Rmoney anyway
Ian David
(69,059 posts)BiggJawn
(23,051 posts)I'd call him a slug, but I don't want to hurt the slug's feelings...
LAGC
(5,330 posts)Many honestly believe he will appoint pro-gun justices to the Supreme Court.
Even though his record appointing pro-gun judges in Massachusetts was abysmal.
Paladin
(28,267 posts)In a 2008 poll, 45% of you indicated your willingness to vote Republican over gun policy. I have no doubt that at least that many of you are still willing to do so, in spite of Obama's hands-off policy regarding firearms.
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)and who of us seriously thinks Mitt is pro gun? Oligarchs don't like armed serfs. That is why Mexico has such strict laws since the 1960s.
Paladin
(28,267 posts)45% said they were prepared to vote Repub---and another 3% claimed they were prepared to sit at home on election day, just to piss off Democrats. Not exactly the DU Gun Enthusiasts' finest hour.....