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Francis Marion

(250 posts)
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 03:39 PM Jul 2012

Is Michael Bloomberg a gun owner?

To answer this question, I looked on Michael Bloomberg's website, but I still don't know.
Nor did I find an 'Ask the Mayor' channel of communication to post the question.

An honest, obvious question to ask a public official so deeply invested in the gun control debate- surely somebody has asked him this question long before now; if so, what's the answer?




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Francis Marion

(250 posts)
2. If public policy and personal choice don't match up...
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 03:49 PM
Jul 2012

what should we call that?

Anyway, the answer is still unkown.

 

TPaine7

(4,286 posts)
3. It is impossible for those who oppose guns and agree with Shares to be hypocrites.
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 03:50 PM
Jul 2012

Hypocrite
hypocrit:{noun}

Someone whose behavior contradicts their own teachings or philosophy AND who is not a supporter of gun control who agrees with Shares (AKA Loudly).

 

Loudly

(2,436 posts)
5. Do you feel the same way about nuclear arms control?
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 03:54 PM
Jul 2012

Somebody needs to go first to suggest that a change be made.

It doesn't mean a nuclear power unilaterally disarms just because it recognizes arms proliferation is a problem.

 

TPaine7

(4,286 posts)
6. Yes.
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 04:09 PM
Jul 2012

Any country that teaches that countries shouldn't have nuclear arms while keeping their own stockpile is hypocritical.

Now there is a difference between saying that Kim Jong Il and Ahamjinadad shouldn't have nukes because they are insane and credible threats to the innocent and saying that countries in general shouldn't have nukes.

If Bloomie stopped at saying that insane people and violent felons shouldn't have guns he wouldn't be a hypocrite (on that subject, at least).

 

Loudly

(2,436 posts)
9. But aside from seeking to ban extortionists and religious dead enders?
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 04:33 PM
Jul 2012

Is it hypocritical for the USA to suggest that nuclear arms reduction even among the "rightful" superpowers would be beneficial to the world?

I see that as Bloomie in this analogy.

 

TPaine7

(4,286 posts)
10. No, not if they were working toward that end.
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 05:38 PM
Jul 2012

America can say: "Less nuclear arms are better, and we would like to work with the Soviets to lower our arsenals. We would also like others to join us in decreasing the number of nuclear arms." That is not hypocritical.

America cannot say: "India and France have no right to nuclear arsenals" while maintaining their own arsenal--at least not without being hypocritical.

..........................

Bloomie can say: "Less guns are better, and I am decreasing my armed detail and getting rid of some of my private guns, and I would like other citizens to join me in getting rid of guns." That is not hypocritical.

Bloomie cannot say: "I am an important and special person with my own army and with special rights. There is no equality under the law, despite what the Constitution says, so as a special person, I can have and/or carry my personal weapons while forbidding others to do the same. Jane Smith, who has been put in the hospital several times by her lunatic ex and is under death threats is not a special person; yes she's threatened just as surely as I am, but I'm better than her. So my lackeys at the police department, who issued my special papers, can laugh in her face, bully her, give her the runaround and deny her the same treatment I got." That would be hypocrisy.

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
4. Several prominent gun control politicians in CA do/did
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 03:53 PM
Jul 2012

Make them look a lot like the 1% though to a woman are better than anything the repukes would offer up.

abolugi

(417 posts)
8. I'm a gun owner
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 04:15 PM
Jul 2012

and I believe in gun control...
It doesn't mean I want to take your guns away.
The state I live in has pretty strict gun control laws and yet between my husband and I we have 4 legal guns. all kinds of ammo, all legal The gun control laws have not hindered me as a legal gun owner at all..

 

TPaine7

(4,286 posts)
11. Bloomie claims not to understand why people want guns, as he famously said regarding a retired
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 06:16 PM
Jul 2012

policeman who carried in NY City.

"Guns kill people" Bloomie quipped.

Of course none of the reporters, at least as far as I know, asked Bloomie why his detail is armed with guns. I guess that would be like a peasant asking a lord why he got the freshest and best food while the peasant and his family got gruel.

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