Gun Control & RKBA

SecularMotion

(7,981 posts) Sat Aug 11, 2012, 12:35 AM Aug 2012

NRA Sought Donations in Days After Colorado Shootings

The letter dated July 23, which was sent to NRA supporters including to people in Colorado, doesn’t mention the gunfire during the showing of the new Batman movie July 20 in Aurora, Colorado.

It was also sent as the national debate over gun rights has flared up, prompted by the Aurora shooting and continuing after the Aug. 5 shootings at a Sikh temple near Milwaukee. A gunman, identified as Wade Michael Page, a 40-year-old U.S. Army veteran, is suspected of killing six people in that incident before police shot him dead.

The four-page solicitation from NRA executive vice president Wayne LaPierre was sent to drum up funds to underwrite an advertising and grassroots campaign to defeat President Barack Obama and elect gun-rights supporters in Congress.

The letter drew criticism from the Denver-based Colorado Ceasefire Capitol Fund, a gun-control advocacy group, whose president Eileen McCarron called it “very insensitive.”

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-07/nra-sought-donations-in-days-after-colorado-shootings.html

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NRA Sought Donations in Days After Colorado Shootings (Original Post) SecularMotion Aug 2012 OP

probably was in the works before hand gejohnston Aug 2012 #1

Has Mayors Against Illegal Guns called for the defeat of President Obama? SecularMotion Aug 2012 #2

I don't support the NRA or LaPierre either gejohnston Aug 2012 #3

Funny how you claim you don't support the NRA yet you use their talking points. SecularMotion Aug 2012 #4

Is he incorrect? Reasonable_Argument Aug 2012 #5

Are you defending NRA talking points? SecularMotion Aug 2012 #6

Yep Reasonable_Argument Aug 2012 #7

you didn't read the article? gejohnston Aug 2012 #14

Many gun owners dislike the NRA but support its views on gun control ... spin Aug 2012 #15

And the point is....what? ileus Aug 2012 #8

So what of it? N/T GreenStormCloud Aug 2012 #9

Has there been a single day in the last 40 years or so when the NRA was NOT seeking donations? slackmaster Aug 2012 #10

Exactly. Atypical Liberal Aug 2012 #11

And your point is what? Equate Aug 2012 #12

I bet donations went up because of all the noise from Antigun freaks demanding gun/accessory bans aikoaiko Aug 2012 #13

So did the Brady Campaign. spin Aug 2012 #16

The NRA is always asking for money rl6214 Aug 2012 #17

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)

1. probably was in the works before hand

Reply to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sat Aug 11, 2012, 01:09 AM

Aug 2012

The group Mayors Against Illegal Guns has run television ads during the Olympics calling for Obama and Romney to lay out specific plans for reducing gun violence. New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, founder and majority owner of Bloomberg LP, parent company of Bloomberg News, is co-chairman of the group.
FEC Filing
The group reported in an Aug. 6 Federal Election Commission filing that it’s spending $133,000 to produce and air that spot. The filing also says the group received $3.4 million in donations since January 2011, with $3.1 million coming from Mayor Bloomberg and another $250,000 from billionaire philanthropist Eli Broad.

That pretty much tells me all I need to know about the gun control movement.

SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)

2. Has Mayors Against Illegal Guns called for the defeat of President Obama?

Reply to gejohnston (Reply #1)

Sat Aug 11, 2012, 01:13 AM

Aug 2012

The four-page solicitation from NRA executive vice president Wayne LaPierre was sent to drum up funds to underwrite an advertising and grassroots campaign to defeat President Barack Obama and elect gun-rights supporters in Congress.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)

3. I don't support the NRA or LaPierre either

Reply to SecularMotion (Reply #2)

Sat Aug 11, 2012, 01:29 AM

Aug 2012

but we are not talking about LaPierre or Obama. So your red herring is uncaged. But then, I can always count on an "anti" using some logical fallacy. We are talking about a big assed grass roots machine vs a couple of billionaires.

SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)

4. Funny how you claim you don't support the NRA yet you use their talking points.

Reply to gejohnston (Reply #3)

Sat Aug 11, 2012, 06:46 AM

Aug 2012

NRA talking point - Mayors Against Illegal Guns = "a couple of billionaires"

Reasonable_Argument

(881 posts)

5. Is he incorrect?

Reply to SecularMotion (Reply #4)

Sat Aug 11, 2012, 06:51 AM

Aug 2012

Also, I'm surprised you took a moment to post instead of your usual job of acting like the Brady Campaign's RSS feed.

SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)

6. Are you defending NRA talking points?

Reply to Reasonable_Argument (Reply #5)

Sat Aug 11, 2012, 07:47 AM

Aug 2012

Reasonable_Argument

(881 posts)

7. Yep

Reply to SecularMotion (Reply #6)

Sat Aug 11, 2012, 08:22 AM

Aug 2012

That group is Bloomberg's creation.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)

14. you didn't read the article?

Reply to SecularMotion (Reply #4)

Sat Aug 11, 2012, 10:19 AM

Aug 2012

that is what MAIG told the FEC. Can you show where the NRA said it? Can you point to where the NRA said it as a talking point? Why are facts from the FEC, FBI, independent studies by respected criminologists "NRA talking points" while opinion pieces by people have no fucking clue what they are talking about objective truth? They are repeating Brady talking points.

spin

(17,493 posts)

15. Many gun owners dislike the NRA but support its views on gun control ...

Reply to SecularMotion (Reply #4)

Sat Aug 11, 2012, 12:24 PM

Aug 2012

I know a number of ex members who decided to drop their membership because of all the mail and telephone calls they received from the political wing of the NRA, the NRA-ILA. That in no way means they disagree with the basic idea that American citizens have a right to own firearms for hunting, target shooting and self defense. Many if not most of the NRA "talking points" are solid.

As a over 40 year member of the NRA, I can tell you that they can indeed be a pain in the ass. Apparently they finally realized that I refuse to donate money to the NRA-ILA as I have stopped receiving solicitations. I don't always agree with the NRA but basically I support RKBA and the Second Amendment. If I believed that there was indeed a serious threat to gun owner rights, I would donate to the NRA-ILA. At this time I have no such fear.

ileus

(15,396 posts)

8. And the point is....what?

Reply to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sat Aug 11, 2012, 08:45 AM

Aug 2012

Is the NRA supposed to expect an end to attacks on the 2A? Ever?

GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)

9. So what of it? N/T

Reply to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sat Aug 11, 2012, 09:17 AM

Aug 2012

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)

10. Has there been a single day in the last 40 years or so when the NRA was NOT seeking donations?

Reply to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sat Aug 11, 2012, 09:19 AM

Aug 2012

Non-story is a non-story.

Atypical Liberal

(5,412 posts)

11. Exactly.

Reply to slackmaster (Reply #10)

Sat Aug 11, 2012, 09:23 AM

Aug 2012

Equate

(256 posts)

12. And your point is what?

Reply to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sat Aug 11, 2012, 09:30 AM

Aug 2012

That the NRA solicited donations after the CO. shooting? So what? The letter was already in the works. The two events are not mutually inclusive. I belong to the NRA, but I don't donate to the NRA-ILA, instead, those donations go to Pres. Obama's re-election campaign.

aikoaiko

(34,183 posts)

13. I bet donations went up because of all the noise from Antigun freaks demanding gun/accessory bans

Reply to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sat Aug 11, 2012, 09:52 AM

Aug 2012

Like others said, mass mailings are printed and scheduled months in advance.

But all the antigun talk of banning things that would not have prevented the tragedy in a Aurora probably put more money in both the NRA and NRA-ILA. The second org working against Obama.

Nice job there sparky!

spin

(17,493 posts)

16. So did the Brady Campaign.

Reply to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sat Aug 11, 2012, 12:28 PM

Aug 2012

Donate to the Brady Campaign today to help us pass life-saving gun laws to protect you and your family.
http://www.bradycampaign.org/donate

rl6214

(8,142 posts)

17. The NRA is always asking for money

Reply to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sat Aug 11, 2012, 04:29 PM

Aug 2012

What' s your point?

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