Gun Control & RKBA
Related: About this forumAgain, someone tries to check their firearm in NYC.
Marine faces 15 years behind bars for unknowingly violating gun law.
http://dailycaller.com/2012/01/03/marine-faces-fifteen-years-behind-bars-for-unknowingly-violating-gun-law/
Ryan Jerome was enjoying his first trip to New York City on business when the former Marine Corps gunner walked up to a security officer at the Empire State Building and asked where he should check his gun.
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The 28-year-old with no criminal history now faces a mandatory minimum sentence of three and a half years in prison. If convicted, his sentence could be as high as fifteen years.
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If he does get indicted, and they want to give him something less, then the legal minimum would be two years, noted Mark Bederow, Jeromes attorney. They couldnt even offer less if they wanted to.
Apparently he did not check a good source online about the laws in NYC, as he was under the impression that it was legal. Goes to show you cannot trust the internet for sound legal advice.
rl6214
(8,142 posts)" the former Marine Corps gunner"
rocktivity
(44,576 posts)Knowing interstate travel gun laws is part of responsible gun ownership.
rocktivity
BiggJawn
(23,051 posts)Offhand, I'd say that was an understatement. Wonder which site he checked with
TPaine7
(4,286 posts)Unfortunately, the Court did not say the legal equivalent of "Simon says," so unconstitutional enclaves get to keep thumbing their noses at the Bill of Rights.
Logically, states should be compelled--by force if necessary--to respect "the right of the people to ... bear arms." The criminal thugs in New York City, Chicago, Hawaii, California, New Jersey, DC and other enclaves will have to have their legal asses soundly kicked first, probably repeatedly.
mvccd1000
(1,534 posts)Actions that are perfectly legal in 99% land turn you into an instant criminal when you cross the NYC limits.
Commoners aren't to be trusted there!
Remmah2
(3,291 posts)Vibrators are legal.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)I'm a bad person, aren't I?
Kennah
(14,273 posts)Guess I should cancel that kilo of cocaine I ordered from Amazon.
oneshooter
(8,614 posts)Via the Feds.
I have a feeling this case will be used to push the National CCW reciprocity bill
"Good guy runs afoul of draconian law"
Yup
aikoaiko
(34,170 posts)Must be the wacky influence of bloomberg
burf
(1,164 posts)A ticket-fixing scandal has now ignited a virtual civil war in the NYPD.
The stunning investigation had 16 officers in Bronx Criminal Court Friday, answering to charges. Hundreds of their colleagues were there in a dramatic show of support as all the officers pleaded not guilty in connection with the investigation.
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/10/28/sources-several-nypd-cops-surrender-in-ticket-fixing-scandal/
Response to Glassunion (Original post)
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pipoman
(16,038 posts)what with their arresting people for exercising otherwise completely legal, in fact constitutional freedoms..
A photographer recently spent 37 hours in jail after being singled out by the NYPD for taking pictures of Occupy Wall Street protesters.
http://www.longislandlawyerblog.com/tag/photographer-arrests-nyc
Horaah for authoritarianism! Cheers NYC!!1!11
iverglas
(38,549 posts)And don't say I didn't tell you so.
That gave me a chuckle.
Thanks
pipoman
(16,038 posts)bargain for a guilty plea to something like 'disorderly conduct' to avoid outrageous mandatory minimums..it happens all the time.
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)The last time this happened with a guy from Florida, they chose to try to convict him of criminal possession of a loaded firearm.
Took the jury less than 30 minutes to come back with a not guilty.
Euromutt
(6,506 posts)Security theater being what it is, chances are that outside an airport or a courthouse, nobody's actually going to check whether you're carrying, and not to put too fine a point on it, if they can't be fucked to enforce their chickenshit rules, why should you make their lives easier?
And the voice of the "law-abiding gun owner" is once again heard throughout the land.
iverglas
(38,549 posts)We all know my tale of trying to park in the Ronald Reagan building's public parking lot in April 2003.
Identification please. Uh, identification? We're Canadian. We didn't know we would need identification to park. Nobody really knows what a Canadian looks like (it's our secret weapon, the way we blend in), so he might have been able to pass.
It might not have worked for us, of course, if my friend who was driving her locally registered car hadn't had her Langley employee ID with her ...
It worked with most speed limit enforcers, though.
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)Both Ryan Jerome and Meredith Graves cases have been settled.
Both took a misdemeanor charge and paid a $200 fine.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/tennessee-tourist-brought-gun-9-11-memorial-misdemeanor-plea-deal-article-1.1046815?localLinksEnabled=false
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)gejohnston
(17,502 posts)Santorum, if he owns any, and Perry should leaves theirs at home but you and I are good to go?
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)That'll weed out the morans...