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I get the distinct impression that the NRA has become Orwell's "Brotherhood" for some people (Original Post) friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 OP
a brief history Mika Aug 2012 #1
Well, that was... incredibly stupid. PavePusher Aug 2012 #2
I am not going to get those 3 minutes back, am I? ManiacJoe Aug 2012 #4
Here's another one... DanTex Aug 2012 #8
Brilliant! Simo 1939_1940 Aug 2012 #11
LOL. David Kopel! Wow! DanTex Aug 2012 #12
Yes, let's ignore the sourced rebuttal in a genetic fallacy swipe! Brilliant! n/t X_Digger Aug 2012 #18
Fair enough... holdencaufield Aug 2012 #10
and they haven't found out yet Karl Rove is the next president. ileus Aug 2012 #3
It is like listening to the "arab street" when you live in the Middle East, it is truly amusing. ProgressiveProfessor Aug 2012 #5
They just like having something to blame. Clames Aug 2012 #6
Don't quote me on this but... Callisto32 Aug 2012 #13
meh. I can't stand the Lobby Approach to politics from any angle. Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2012 #7
A BIG difference between the NRA and MOST Lobbyists... virginia mountainman Aug 2012 #9
yes but, you see you just argued for the very reason We don't need the NRA Lobby Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2012 #15
Just for the record, I concure with you about lobbying..nt virginia mountainman Aug 2012 #16
oh. sorry. glad we cleared that up Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2012 #17
I'm quite comfortable with that analogy. NewMoonTherian Aug 2012 #14
Worth a read Reasonable_Argument Aug 2012 #19
 

PavePusher

(15,374 posts)
2. Well, that was... incredibly stupid.
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 05:49 PM
Aug 2012

As well as incredibly dishonest and inaccurate.

Did you have anything constructive to say?

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
4. I am not going to get those 3 minutes back, am I?
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 06:06 PM
Aug 2012

I should have heeded PavePusher's warning...
Some parts were almost funny. Almost....

 

holdencaufield

(2,927 posts)
10. Fair enough...
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 12:54 AM
Aug 2012

... but tell me, why didn't they shoot the witches?

This would be so much better with a catch "school-house rock" soundtrack

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
5. It is like listening to the "arab street" when you live in the Middle East, it is truly amusing.
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 06:08 PM
Aug 2012

"Da joos" are responsible for everything bad that happens...rain, no rain, you get the idea

 

Clames

(2,038 posts)
6. They just like having something to blame.
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 06:35 PM
Aug 2012

Rational thought need not apply. I find it funny how one of our resident anti-gunners posted an article blaming the NRA for the EPA not taking up regulation of lead ammunition. Guess they didn't notice that the EPA also provides its own blocking mechanism and has repeatedly shot down requests for blanket bans on lead ammo.

Callisto32

(2,997 posts)
13. Don't quote me on this but...
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 10:30 AM
Aug 2012

I have a vague memory of a vague memory of something that indicates that it is emphatically NOT the province of the EPA to have anything to do with the regulation of ammunition.

Maybe it's in the charter? I don't know if I am right or not, but maybe someone else can confirm/disconfirm.

virginia mountainman

(5,046 posts)
9. A BIG difference between the NRA and MOST Lobbyists...
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 12:42 AM
Aug 2012

Is the sheer number, of highly motivated voters the NRA can bring to the table.

That is the thing that drives the other side bonkers, and their is no way around that fact. That among the lobbyists, the NRA is one of the few, that can bring THOUSANDS of highly motivated, "Angry" or "Enthusiastic" voters to the polls on election day.

It is up to the politician to decide WHICH way those voters will go.

Try as they might, the anti gun side, is completely outclassed.

Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
15. yes but, you see you just argued for the very reason We don't need the NRA Lobby
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 04:21 PM
Aug 2012

Give the power back to the VOTERS where it belongs!

FUCK LOBBYING. I HATE IT. ABSOLUTELY FUCKING HATE AND DESPISE THE CONCEPT.

NewMoonTherian

(883 posts)
14. I'm quite comfortable with that analogy.
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 10:54 AM
Aug 2012

That puts the Brady Campaign, VPC, and Bloomberg's lackeys in the role of The Party.

 
19. Worth a read
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 08:28 PM
Aug 2012
This cycle of tragedy-driven hatred must stop. Because so much more connects us than divides us. And because tragedy has been and will always be with us. Somewhere right now, evil people are scheming evil things. All of us will do every meaningful thing we can do to prevent it. But each horrible act can't become an axe for opportunists to cleave the very Bill of Rights that binds us.

America must stop this predictable pattern of reaction. When an isolated, terrible event occurs, our phones ring, demanding that the NRA explain the inexplicable.

Why us? Because their story needs a villain. They want us to play the heavy in their drama of packaged grief, to provide riveting programming to run between commercials for cars and cat food.

The dirty secret of this day and age is that political gain and media ratings all too often bloom upon fresh graves. I remember a better day, when no one dared politicize or profiteer on trauma. We kept a respectful distance then, as NRA has tried to do now. Simply being silent is so often the right thing to do.

But today, carnage comes with a catchy title, splashy graphics, regular promos and a reactionary package of legislation. Reporters perch like vultures on the balconies of hotels for a hundred miles around. Cameras jockey for shocking angles, as news anchors race to drench their microphones in the tears of victims.

Injury, shock, grief and despair shouldn't be "brought-to-you by sponsors." That's pornography. It trivializes the tragedy, it abuses vulnerable people, and maybe worst of all, it makes the unspeakable seem commonplace.

And we're often cast as the villain.

That is not our role in American society, and we will not be forced to play it. Our mission is to remain a steady beacon of strength and support for the Second Amendment, even if it has no other friend on the planet. We cannot let tragedy lay waste to the most rare and hard-won human right in history.
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