Gun Control & RKBA
Related: About this forumMan shoots ski-mask-wearing intruder at his sister's house...ends up being his son.
facts are still a little unclear, but tragic in any event.
http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/policereports/article/Young-intruder-shot-to-death-unknowingly-by-3898983.php
slackmaster
(60,567 posts)Tragic story.
rDigital
(2,239 posts)house and call the popo. If they still try to bust in....take action.
This sounds like an unnecessary escalation on the shooters behalf.
petronius
(26,602 posts)and the brother (shooter) was coming from next door to protect her. It's possible that he encountered the intruder while en route, rather than deliberately escalating the confrontation.
Tragic and sad, without a doubt...
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)More guns!
Where do we need them?
Everywhere!
rDigital
(2,239 posts)Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)glacierbay
(2,477 posts)Try giving a straight answer and then you'll get an answer. And you guys wonder why you're not trusted with the 2A.
So, I'll try, do you support complete civilian disarmament?
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)The answer you get will depend on who the audience is...
holdencaufield
(2,927 posts)... a Hispanic Republican?
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)Lets just say that the ones I knew tended to make the average teabagger look like Dwight Eisenhower when the subject of non-right wing Hispanics was raised...
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)Wonder why we don't trust you lot? Simple: It's like pulling teeth to get a straight answer out of you
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=74735
Keep that in mind the next time one of them complains about one of their "common-sense" proposals being blocked, or our being unwilling to "compromise".
My response to the "compromise" schtick has always been along the lines of:
"Since rather too many of you lot have stated that banning gun ownership is your goal, I have to ask what you are willing to give up in
order to acheive 'compromise'?" In the course of 6+ years here at DU, I've yet to see a one of them willing to give up anything.
That's the kind of people we are dealing with.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)Happy to be of help!
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)ProgressiveProfessor
(22,144 posts)Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)hmmmm....
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)And if you can descibe Vermont as "right-wing" with a straight face, you may find a second career as a poker player lucrative...
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)Asking what you want shouldn't be like asking a dodgy real estate salesperson about a house built on a landfill they're trying to sell me.
I understand why you lot like to keep schtum about your real positions- they're frankly not very popular these days- but it's
more than slightly ridiculous to pretend that they are not what they are.
ToxMarz
(2,169 posts)Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)for unrestricted armament of civilians, you just keep your radical beliefs secret.
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)Vermonters 21 and over can walk into a gun shop, go through a NICS check and walk out with a non-Class 3 firearm.
No waiting period, no vetting by politically suspect law enforcement, no bans on esthetic grounds of firearms that are rarely misused.
Seems to work, the Burlington MSA of 200K population or so has a lower violent crime rate than similar areas here in "gun-safe" Massachusetts.
There ya go. No "unrestricted armament of civilians". And since you are reluctant to answer the question asked of you, here's another:
What new restrictions on guns in the US do you support?
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)I'm asked if I support confiscating all guns from everyone. I decline to answer a rather stupid question. That is then cited as proof that I support confiscating all guns from everyone. You decline to answer my equivalently stupid question about unrestricted armament of civilians. I cite that as proof, using the prior standard, that you support unrestricted armament of civilians. You call bullshit. Well I agree, but it is a little late. The bullshit started way up thread.
The current gungeoneer coordinated talking point is that we are all crypto confiscators. We arent. You all should go back to coordinated dismay over the horror of "google dumps".
rrneck
(17,671 posts)If it's so stupid why can't you answer it? What are you afraid of?
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)Unfortunately for them, those who share their goals tend to have occasional bouts of word vomit where they come right out and admit what they really want...
jbgood1977
(91 posts)Very telling indeed.
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)...come back and bite you in the ass. Other posters here have not learned this yet, so get their "inconvenient" posts quoted back at them on a regular basis.
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)alabama_for_obama
(136 posts)Since when does a lot of people having similar opinions mean that they have somehow actively colluded with one another to agree to have these opinions?
rDigital
(2,239 posts)Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)And in your own words, why are they necessary?
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)I'm more or less finished with the interrogation. Thanks though, it was fun.
rrneck
(17,671 posts)holdencaufield
(2,927 posts)rrneck
(17,671 posts)Atypical Liberal
(5,412 posts)I believe you will find most people and organizations like the NRA do not support "completely unrestricted civilian armament".
For two easy examples, we do not support people with certain criminal histories owning guns, nor people who have been adjudicated mentally incompetent or having been involuntarily committed to a mental institution owning guns.
Sekhmets Daughter
(7,515 posts)But I wouldn't mind seeing some reasonable restrictions enforced and I certainly wouldn't mind learning that the NRA leadership had all dropped dead...it can be of natural causes....
petronius
(26,602 posts)trouble this year...
4th law of robotics
(6,801 posts)Fewer criminals!
/I suppose she could have just called the cops and they could have shot him. That would have been better right?
gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)I would love to know if the dad and sister are reupublicans! and even more so if they support the NRA!
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)...and I'll be happy to take them to task on your behalf.
gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)and the right to have a fucking gun over all else including the common safety and good...FUCK THE NRA!!!!
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)And if this turns out to be legitimate self-defense, will you still blame the NRA?
holdencaufield
(2,927 posts)For making gun yogurt?
ileus
(15,396 posts)Response to Animal Chin (Original post)
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Animal Chin
(175 posts)More news outlets here (CT) are confirming it was his son.
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)Sad
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)wrote a great song about a western folk tale of a sherriff tracking down and shooting a stagecoach robber, only to discover after de-masking robber it was his wife. Look up Dean Johanesen on google or facebook... incredible songwriter.
PavePusher
(15,374 posts)...don't rob stage coaches...
But seriously, I looked him up, good stuff there. Thanks!
bongbong
(5,436 posts)They're so soft and cuddly, as per the Delicate Flowers in the DU Gun Lobby.
ileus
(15,396 posts)Sad but true.
holdencaufield
(2,927 posts)... is this a cautionary tale about guns or a really good PSA for birth control?
Marinedem
(373 posts)Unfortunately this kid was too dumb for his own good.
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