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Three more innocent people shot today in FL (Original Post) upaloopa Oct 2012 OP
linksy poo? nt 99th_Monkey Oct 2012 #1
Google fl beauty parlor shooting I am using a I-phone upaloopa Oct 2012 #2
Where does it say he was previously law-abiding? GreenStormCloud Oct 2012 #3
Geez ! The thing most important here is 3 people were shot! upaloopa Oct 2012 #4
That was not what you seemed concerned about in your O.P. n/t PavePusher Oct 2012 #6
You might start with the importance of truth... Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #13
What the hell? I got to produce a police rap sheet or not? upaloopa Oct 2012 #5
well, don't claim facts gejohnston Oct 2012 #7
You ain't even worth talking to. upaloopa Oct 2012 #8
I don't see any sympathy for them in your OP. GreenStormCloud Oct 2012 #9
My deepest condolences to the victims of this nut case. glacierbay Oct 2012 #27
You are very bad at this. nt Union Scribe Oct 2012 #35
You are being asked to prove what you claimed. GreenStormCloud Oct 2012 #10
"previously law abiding gun owner." Your words. Back them up. nt Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #14
Link to article ... spin Oct 2012 #11
Keep shaking that bloody t-shirt in indignation. People who capitalize on tradgedies are sick. nt rDigital Oct 2012 #12
He just think his morals are more moral than your morals... Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #17
Three questions... slackmaster Oct 2012 #15
Saw it on the cartoon network. nt Remmah2 Oct 2012 #36
I dont understand why some people blame the weapons darkangel218 Oct 2012 #16
The same type that bans words, bans firearms. nt rDigital Oct 2012 #18
Yah i know. darkangel218 Oct 2012 #20
It's the same mentality as people who want to ban all abortions slackmaster Oct 2012 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Oct 2012 #21
You may want to edit your title. CokeMachine Oct 2012 #22
Yah i forgot about that. thanx n/t darkangel218 Oct 2012 #23
Did you go spigotty on me again, darkangel? slackmaster Oct 2012 #26
Yup i like being spigotish :p its lots of fun! darkangel218 Oct 2012 #28
He was served with a domestic violence injunction ileus Oct 2012 #24
That means it was illegal for him to have a gun. GreenStormCloud Oct 2012 #29
More info ileus Oct 2012 #25
GREAT FIND! N/T GreenStormCloud Oct 2012 #30
He wasn't law-biding. Previous violent felony arrests. GreenStormCloud Oct 2012 #31
I think it is settled that you were just making stuff up at this point. ProgressiveProfessor Oct 2012 #32
Just another example of the faith-promoting rumor beloved of that lot. Bookmark this thread. friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #33
Would you like an extinguisher? PavePusher Oct 2012 #34
He had a lengthy criminal history. Atypical Liberal Oct 2012 #37
What happened to the OP poster? GreenStormCloud Oct 2012 #38
I think he/she ran away when their cupidity was uncovered DonP Oct 2012 #39
Petitioning for a name change OriginalGeek Oct 2012 #41
OP = Thrashed. Please sir, may I have another? nt rDigital Oct 2012 #40
The shooter's arrest record: domestic assault, felony assault, stalking, burglary and ... spin Oct 2012 #42
OP never had a chance. Clames Oct 2012 #43

GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
3. Where does it say he was previously law-abiding?
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 04:43 PM
Oct 2012

I assume you are refering to this shooting: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/3-killed-1-wounded-hair-salon-shooting-article-1.1186723

I googled and looked at all the responses. None of them say whether or not he had a police record. I did find this:

"My cousin, he's been having problems," one of them said. "He's mentally not there. We've been telling her dad, just keep away from him, keep away from him. Get a restraining order."

Two other women escaped the shooting unharmed, according to WESH-TV.

Seminole County Sheriff's Office spokeswoman Heather Smith said the suspected shooter told the couple at the house where he committed suicide that he was having "some problems" before he pulled the trigger.


Definately an arguement for better access to mental care.

Unless you can provide a link that shows that he was a legal gun owner then it appears you are just making stuff up.


upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
4. Geez ! The thing most important here is 3 people were shot!
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 04:54 PM
Oct 2012

I will never understand people with your thinking

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
13. You might start with the importance of truth...
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:18 PM
Oct 2012

Was he a previously law-abiding person or not?

You do claim he is one, don't you?

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
8. You ain't even worth talking to.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 05:36 PM
Oct 2012

You don't even have the heart to feel sympathy for shooting victims.

GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
9. I don't see any sympathy for them in your OP.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 05:39 PM
Oct 2012

All I see in your OP is your attempt to take advantage of a tragedy to further your agenda.

 

glacierbay

(2,477 posts)
27. My deepest condolences to the victims of this nut case.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:58 PM
Oct 2012

And as for you, pot, meet kettle. You have no room to talk, not once did you express sympathy for the victims on this thread.

GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
10. You are being asked to prove what you claimed.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 05:41 PM
Oct 2012

You claimed that he was law-abiding, so prove it.

Looks like I caught you making stuff up to further your agenda.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
17. He just think his morals are more moral than your morals...
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:26 PM
Oct 2012

So he can splat anything against the wall; trouble is, he thinks he shouldn't have his hand called when he does.

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
15. Three questions...
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:24 PM
Oct 2012

1. How do you know they were innocent?

2. How do you know they were shot?

3. How do you know that the person who shot them was previously law-abiding?

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
16. I dont understand why some people blame the weapons
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:25 PM
Oct 2012

As being the guilty part.

ANYTHING can pretty much be used as a weapon! Think about it! Are you going to ban all objects that may/ could be used as a weapon??

I'll never get your resoning.

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
19. It's the same mentality as people who want to ban all abortions
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:30 PM
Oct 2012

A narcissistic belief that they know better than other people what is best for them.

Response to slackmaster (Reply #19)

 

CokeMachine

(1,018 posts)
22. You may want to edit your title.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:40 PM
Oct 2012

The word police don't like the use of the "R" word. You may get alerted if they see it.

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
28. Yup i like being spigotish :p its lots of fun!
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 07:00 PM
Oct 2012

This weekend I'm going to the shooting range, even more fun

ileus

(15,396 posts)
24. He was served with a domestic violence injunction
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:46 PM
Oct 2012

The gunman, identified by police as Bradford Baumet, was served with a domestic violence injunction Oct. 9 and scheduled to be in Orange County court Thursday for a hearing with the salon's manager, Marcia Santiago, who took out the restraining order. Their relationship was not immediately clear.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I don't know about you but if I had a domestic violence injunction taken out against someone, I'd never turn my back on a door, and would sure not be caught unarmed.

Can't wait until in the morning when Mike has his "guns are bad news for women" post.

GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
29. That means it was illegal for him to have a gun.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 07:46 PM
Oct 2012

So, a person who decides to murder ignores gun laws. What else is new?

GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
31. He wasn't law-biding. Previous violent felony arrests.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 08:21 PM
Oct 2012

You have been solidly caught making stuff up for your agenda. Commonly called lying.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/dead-central-fla-beauty-salon-shooting-17509338#.UICHe2_7IkQ

Records in Florida and Rhode Island show Baumet has been previously arrested for domestic assault, felony assault, stalking, burglary and drug possession.

The article doesn't specifically say but I would bet that there are some convictions in there too.

Mugshot here: http://mugshots.com/US-Counties/Florida/Seminole-County-FL/Bradford-Baumet.2558615.html


ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
32. I think it is settled that you were just making stuff up at this point.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 08:47 PM
Oct 2012

Seems like everyone here cares about both the victims and the truth except...

 

friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)
33. Just another example of the faith-promoting rumor beloved of that lot. Bookmark this thread.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 10:32 PM
Oct 2012

It belongs with the tales of the black white supremacist, the "man with an AK47 in Moscow, Idaho", and the poster who resides simultaneously in Oregon and Italy...

 

Atypical Liberal

(5,412 posts)
37. He had a lengthy criminal history.
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 11:56 AM
Oct 2012
Three more innocent people shot today in FL by a previously law abiding gun owner.

Nope. He had a lengthy criminal history.

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DonP

(6,185 posts)
39. I think he/she ran away when their cupidity was uncovered
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 08:44 PM
Oct 2012

Just another drive by poster that disappears as soon as their falsehoods are pointed out. The only thing missing was that last angry post blaming everything on NRA talking points an accusing us all of being NRA shills.

spin

(17,493 posts)
42. The shooter's arrest record: domestic assault, felony assault, stalking, burglary and ...
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 07:08 PM
Oct 2012

drug possession.
(source: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/dead-central-fla-beauty-salon-shooting-17509338#.UInBA4a8_Dp)

The incident is indeed tragic but the shooter is NOT an example of a "previously law abiding gun owner" as you suggested. He was not an honest and responsible gun owner who just suddenly ran amok.








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