Gun Control & RKBA
Related: About this forumAre there any liberal militias I can join?
The reason I ask is not because I actually want to join a militia. Rather, it is related to a commonly discussed topic in the gungeon, which is whether or not gun control is a liberal policy. For example, there was a recent OP in the gungeon entitled "Does not agreeing with the DNC about gun control make me less of a Democrat?"
Anyway, back to militias. The question "Are there any liberal militias I can join?" is obviously a rhetorical question, used to make the point that most pro-gun extremists, like the militia people, tend to come from the fringe right.
But y'all knew that. The question is, why would an OP making this point get locked?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/117283705
geckosfeet
(9,644 posts)As for your question about militia's - why don't you look into your states firearms laws? See what licensing requirements are. See if any of that interests you. Register for and meet all the requirements for the license of your choice. Join a local gun club. Talk to people along the way, including the administering police departments etc. and see how many militia members are waiting with open arms to sign you up.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)Thanks for your answer to the militia question. But you didn't answer the other one. Do you think that the subject matter of this OP is so off-topic that it should be locked?
geckosfeet
(9,644 posts)In general I think that you will find most gun rights groups and organizations will tilt heavily to the right. Annoyingly so. IMO, disgustingly so.
I can understand one issue voting, but many enthusiasts are openly disdainful of democrats and liberals. My answer there is - learn to deal with it and focus on the second amendment.
The 2A is just as important as the 1A - and the rest. I don't think that you can pick and choose what applies when it comes to the Bill of Rights. However in today's culture, there are a host ancillary social and economic issues that must be confronted and dealt with to insure the continued freedom to keep and bear arms.
Kolesar
(31,182 posts)ProgressiveProfessor
(22,144 posts)Though clearly some groups bridge the gap. For example, there have been black militia groups, including the old and new Black Panthers and the Deacons for Defense.
Kolesar
(31,182 posts)Because you say so? Point out where the poster is wrong.
ProgressiveProfessor
(22,144 posts)The Deacons for Defense were clearly a militia as were the old Black Panthers at one point.
LiberalEsto
(22,845 posts)"Radical tolerance"
http://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/carroll/article/JON-CARROLL-3324002.php
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- Sister Cat-O-Nine-Tails of Equanimity
ileus
(15,396 posts)I just started the DU RKBA militia, anyone can join just reply to this post.
We'll start discussing P&P's, elections, board members, ect... after 1 week from today with the initial member list.
1. No "we're gonna overthrow" the government types.
2. No obvious trolls, only serious progressives willing to build a community of like minded 2A supporters.
Atypical Liberal
(5,412 posts)Let me know what state you live in and I will see what I can look up for militia options for you.
Bear in mind there are no militias as existed in the founders' day.
Trunk Monkey
(950 posts)Perhaps you should contact these folks
http://www.txsg.state.tx.us/
The Texas State Guard (TXSG) is one of three branches of the Texas Military Forces (TXMF), reporting to The Texas Adjutant General located at Texas Military Forces HQ, Camp Mabry (Austin), Texas. The Commander in Chief of the Texas Military Forces is the Governor of Texas. The other two branches are the Texas Army National Guard (TXARNG) and the Texas Air National Guard (TXANG).
Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)keep your arms clean and in good working order. A supply of ammo for each arm. Practice on a regular basis.
Be prepared and ready to answer your country's call to arms.
ileus
(15,396 posts)rrneck
(17,671 posts)ileus
(15,396 posts)"Are there any liberal militias I can join?" is obviously a rhetorical question,
So you admit the OP was an poor attempt at trolling the 2A forum.
Kinda like delicate flowers, toter baser gunners stormfront type comments are for no reason but to disrupt threads.
Maybe militia questions should be directed toward DU's military forum, or the State the OP lives in.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)It has to do with whether support for gun control is a liberal policy. This is not "trolling", it is a legitimate topic that many people, including pro-gun people discuss here frequently.
You need to recognize that the gungeon is not meant to be a safe haven for RKBA supporters. There are also GC supporters in here, and the fact that right-wing craziness runs rampant within the gun culture is surely a legitimate point to make.
you are trolling, just like you constantly accuse us of being RW troll in Meta.
rDigital
(2,239 posts)lector
(95 posts)I am an Ind. Lib. I served my country honorably. I did not allow one in my home when my children were growing up.However, living in the Panhandle of Fl. I saw close up what happened during the aftermath of Katrina. We now have a large dog, (that gives momma the time she needs to get to a weapon), ready to go Shotguns, & other personal defense items. It's not just the looters we need to watch out for, but those who will abuse the power that we the people have given them. Please! please! please! If you own a weapon make dam sure you train regularly with the weapon you use.
glacierbay
(2,477 posts)Welcome to DU and the gungeon.
I also served my country as a soldier in the same war as you, now I'm a LT. for a police dept. in MO. I regularly train on my dept. issued G21, I also train on my dept. issued Remington 870 shotgun and also my personal AR-15 that I carry in my patrol car.
I am a staunch gun rights supporter and I also staunchly support law abiding citizens being able to obtain a CC permit if they meet MO's qualifications.
ProgressiveProfessor
(22,144 posts)Though they are using the term military reserve vice militia these days out of political correctness
rrneck
(17,671 posts)we might not be in this mess today.
Too many liberals spent the last thirty years profiting from conservative policies. Do you really think conservatives were the only ones portfolio padding, house flipping, toy buying and lifestyle enhancing in this country?
If the left gets hungry enough the militias will show up. That's why this election is so important. Maybe you should take up the issue at your next round table meeting at Starbucks. Surely there's a survey study out there somewhere that will suit you.
krispos42
(49,445 posts)Of course, the terms of service prohibit people calling for the violent political or social change, which would seem to be one aspect of the militia types, but I don't think that's what you're doing here.
Militia members seem to want to spend a lot of time camping, hiking, learning wilderness survival, and target shooting, which points towards Outdoor Life.
However, if you want to have a discussion about what kind of gun to buy so you can prepare for armed self-defense after the US government collapses, feel free to start a thread about that.
Bear in mind that for hunting for food after the US government collapses, though, you'll need to go to Outdoor Life.
slackmaster
(60,567 posts)You'll find the state's militia clearly defined, including its composition, command structure, and your obligations.
aikoaiko
(34,183 posts)Sorry Dan. Your application has been rejected.
rrneck
(17,671 posts)hack89
(39,171 posts)because we are not members of the fringe right.
MADem
(135,425 posts)That's a rather ecumenical grouping, with a range of political perspectives from liberal to conservative.
ProgressiveProfessor
(22,144 posts)DonP
(6,185 posts)He seems to be the official photographer of militias based on his extensive collection of pictures of them. He must have some contacts to help you out.
You'll find him up whining in Meta now.
jody
(26,624 posts)below and learn more about your options.
State Guard Association of the United States (SGAUS) and State defense force
If you are between 17 and 45 and male, and not in an excepted position, you are already a member of the unorganized militia under federal law, 10 USC 311 - Militia: composition and classes
State laws are different and in one state, all people between 17 and 64 are part of the militia, see http://legis.la.gov/lss/lss.asp?doc=85523
Finally, congress has been derelict in performing its duties under our Article I of our Constitution, "To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia."
That responsibility includes the unorganized militia that is unorganized, unarmed, and undisciplined.
The above laws apply equally to conservative, liberal, and all other political persuasions.
hack89
(39,171 posts)that sounds about right.
jody
(26,624 posts)hack89
(39,171 posts)jody
(26,624 posts)not their own facts" as Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan said.